Revising the Rate of Fire of the T-64, T-80, Т-72, ZTZ96, ZTZ99 Series and VT4, VT4A1 Tanks

Seeing how the T-80UD is greatly buffed by this, it really needs to go up in BR. I don’t know why you’ve increased the T-64B’s BR before doing the T-80UD.

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Arguable.

Leo2s with spalliners, sure i agree.

No not really.

2PL, 2A4M Can, 2A7V. Every other they are equall.

“technically”.

Lol wtf? Both normal stowage and ready rack is superior on Abrams.

Exactly.

If reload was ALL that matters, then Type 10 would be the best tank in the game. Yet I doubt it can be considered such with its horrible gun depression, broken and ruined drive steering and below-average gun handling.

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Of course they contradict.

The dev blog goes into charts to justify the change and doesn’t mention balance at all, to the point of various models of autoloader getting different reload rates due to mechanical differences.

That is entirely different from selecting a reload rate for all vehicles based on balance.

If it’s a balance change, then they should say that rather than cover it in mechanical justifications when those things have never been used before.

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god, PLEASE we need this.

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Yes, that includes the Challenger 1.
The Comet’s reload speed remains reduced as well.

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Reload is one of the most important factors. The type 90 is a 10.7 tank that’s at 11.7 and it could be moved up to 12.0 just because it has a 4 second autoloader

Edit: I meant 11.0. I forgot how much pen DM33 has

Agree.
It’s time to delete the basket.

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Sadly the Challenger isn’t Russian, so I doubt it will happen

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/m22cZZxaNPXJ

2 years gaijin, please!

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As I said; one of the most important factors, but not so important that it makes everything else irrelevant.

Okay, now that they’ve improved the reload time of these tanks, they should remove that annoying artificial nerf to the second-stage reload that the Leopard 2 and Challenger 3 have. It’s annoying to wait 30 seconds for the reload (24 in a ace) once the first-stage ammo runs out. Also, their first-stage reload time should be reduced from 6 seconds to 5, just like the Abrams.

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The T58 is a 7.7 at 8.3 due to its reload rate as well.

No? The blowout panels actually work on the Leo’s, and the ammo is much more confined

You’d be surprised how often my fully spaded m1a2 gets outrun by 2a7vs in top tier, it’s really pretty laughable how they treat the Abram’s being so heavy with no armor

What? How? Its literally better in every way imaginable, not to mention no giant turret ring that a t-34 can pen if it wanted to

The basket was added to make up for peoples (Russian tanks) inability to aim…

Because unlike a Russian vehicle, NATO tanks actually had some semblance of space for its crews, so if you aimed at the very bottom of the tank (pure skill issue) you wouldn’t do any damage.

That said, I agree. Turret Baskets ESPECIALLY with the reload buff are an unnecessary nerf, and shouldn’t have existed in the first place (damaged turret baskets don’t limit a tanks ability to rotate their turret on the Modern NATO tanks- you would need to hit the turret ring to do such) but ESPECIALLY shouldn’t exist now.

Or at the very least, up the BRs of every single T-series tank that just got a buff. It’s only fair

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It’s because it reloads like three times faster than average of it’s BR, which isn’t really true for Japanese tanks. It’s also at 8.3 due to it’s nuke shell.

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Gaijin has also never heard of manual back traverse because you can’t swing the turret when your hydraulic or power systems get knocked out

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Equivalent to saying the T72s ammo is external because a round is in the breach lol Where’s the blowout panels then… The crew compartment? Lol

the vt-4 is an absolute joke of a tank lol. youre showing its lower front plate as if it was its only weakspot. you can penetrate almost the enitre ufp and there are just small areas you cant pen. its mobility is also pretty mid together with garbage reload, awful top tier shell, garbage depression and non existent survivability. theres no way youre even trying to make an argument about the vt4 being on par with 2a7v

If it’s NATO just assume that Gaijin hasn’t heard of it or “can’t confirm” its existence and use some Russian documents to prove that it can’t possibly be the case. For a NATO vehicle…

Well so how does “balancing” justify for chinese tanks then? I know russian tanks have a far better armor coverage than the Chinese one, but without the autoloader buffs the ZTZ’s aren’t going to be able to compete with Leos, let alone M1A1, in terms of firepower. And what, the ZTZ’s have one of the worst darts in the game, innit?