You have absolutely 0 desire to meet anyone in the middle. Its I want this, you cannot have what you want because I want xyz, I need this now, wah wah wah. I honestly believe I am fighting with someone no older than 12 right now. Honestly Amazing.
In all honesty, even the most curmudgeony of fighter mains do have some valid points, though.
Bombers auto-winning games ain’t fun for anyone but the bombers in question. The CAS zergrushes I once partook in on oldschool Sicily prior to 1.57 where I was vaporizing an entire tank column in one pass with the Duck were only really fun for me. Fighter players do have some legitimate reason to be annoyed at cases like those.
This degradation is entirely due to the infighting among the camps in the playerbase. But the truth is without the zero-sum objective structure, there would be very little reason for them to fight each other.
Pot calling the kettle black, sunshine. You refuse to listen, unless it helps you twist the claims to what you want. If you want to make the case for a new mode catering to fighters (e.g. tournaments), then go to the suggestions section, and make it.
I’m opposed to this for the same reason I’m against splitting ground RB into “with aircraft” and “without”: combined arms is the bread and butter of War Thunder.
Battles are simply more dynamic when there’s vehicles of different classes that have to interact with each other. Of course it’s more difficult to get the balance right but when you do the result is better than the individual parts.
Indeed. All we really need is a single truly GOOD mode. Really one such Full Combined Arms mode would theoretically work for all playable unit types, though some would probably struggle to interact much (like heavy bombers and submarines, the latter we know are coming eventually).
And, there is nobody saying that either must be stuck with those sort of objectives. Right now with the zero-sum objective structure the mode has, there is no reason for the snail to bother improving either when the two conditions rarely are what win matches.
Unfortunately, this evades those who have no interest in understanding. Fleshing out the current air RB to facilitate the aircraft intended to engage with it appropriately would be a significant improvement for everyone involved. If they want a dogfight mode, they can make a suggestion for it, but the majority of people would be quite content with the PvPvE mode being expanded upon. Air to Air interested people would have more options opened to them to engage foes, and air to ground interested souls would have better targets to act upon. Hell, multirole interested folk would finally have reason to run a multirole payload.
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Effortful gameplay, in a custom match.
Really.
Everyone else has a role in real ARB but Bombers should mastur[REDACTED] in custom match.
Marvellous Idea mate
Next year’s Nobel Prize is guaranteed.
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Exactly. Literally everyone benefits as soon as we stop yelling at each other.
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Issue is, the particular souls moaning in opposition to this don’t want to hear it. You can not yell at folk, but they’ll just keep trying to split it into “We want separate modes for some weird reason”.
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you said you dont want RP for it
The sad point is
At this rate
We can’t stop yelling at each other
And Bomber will be banned from ARB
Because it is worthless
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“Exaggeration is a language feature…”
Apparently much like improving the game, hyperbole evades you.
I never knew that you understood it in ‘that way’
:/
Surely by now you’d have learnt that if your hyperbole can be taken out of context to be forced into a different position, it will be on this forum.
This place is blighted.
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When will this blighted place be dealt with?
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To quote one of the Star Wars New Jedi Order novels:
“Arguing with fanatics only makes them more fanatic.”
Some people will never understand, because they have made up their minds on what they deem “good” and “evil.” It is a waste of time interacting with such folk.
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Shaming them does wonders though, and unfortunately, if you don’t address them they’ll keep putting words in your mouth. As evidenced by literally every thread mentioning something underperforming for Sweden, Britain, or France. This forum does not have the high brow souls open to sound discourse that you would hope.
Would be nice if it did, but alas.
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Playing a fighter can’t be a solution for the worthlessness of the bomber.
It is somewhat like that
You ordered PizzaExpress, but got Domino’s instead.
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