Canberras.
Buc S2B is hard because it does have the 9Ls, without those, even just 9Gs, it would be hard to argue for an ARB rating above 9.3/9.7
But Yeah, Buc S1 and Buc S2 really dont need to be so high anymore
Yes in air RB.
Bucc S1 is a better Canberra.
Bucc S2 is a gunless Su-25.
Bucc S2B gets AIM-9Ls to go along with its platform.
Effectively a slightly better A-6E TRAM but 2 less AIM-9Ls.
80 matches, over 80 bases destroyed, 26 deaths, and somehow 3 air frags.
Bucc S2 is a monster.
Claiming Bucc S2 should be 8.3 is nonsense, utter disinformation against one of Britain’s best bombers, and one of the best bombers in the game.
Bucc S2 is as good as Su-25 in ground battles, and in air battles it’s better than all bombers 9.0 and below, and some at 9.3.
Oh look, no gun, far slower.
Thought so yeah, Its the airspawn, Buc S1 has the weaker engines and so terrible acceleration. Buc S1 should get airspawn as well ideally
“<Insert British Plane Here> doesn’t need to be so high anymore”
Applies to 90% of the tree past spitfires.
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8.3 based upon the fact its max A2A loadout is 2x Aim-9Bs and the Sea Vixen, which has equal flight performance to the Buc in my opinion, has 4x Red Tops at 8.7. But i did clearly state it should be 9.0 as its DOA vs the 10.3 premiums it always sees
Canberra Mk6 ALSO at 8.3 has a gun. Canberra Mk6 is one of Britains best dogfighters iirc at that BR
Canberra also have airspawn, which puts them leagues ahead of Buc S1
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Jesus christ, this proves even more ya are bias against america. In what world does having fire and forget missles that dont do jack shit to tanks more dangerous than a jet whose armor is more than the maus for some reason, and doesn’t go up against the most overpowered spaas in the game. The Su-25 missiles are beyond over power, literally hits the ground 500 ft from a heavily armor mbt and just one shots it. Mean while, AGM-65s penns the top of any tank and does nothing.
In gaijins eyes, one requires no skill the other does. :D and we all know which is which
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It’s a slower AIM-9D that has an uncaged seeker before launch. AIM-9Bs don’t pull 18G. Range and guidance time sits in between those two.
What? There’s no bias against America.
A-10A Late is going to a correct BR of 10.7.
F-111A, being vastly superior to the Su-25, is staying 10.3, only 0.3 higher than the Su-25.
F-4C being equivalent to the Su-25 is staying 10.0.
Su-25 isn’t the only thing with ZUNI type rockets or bombs with CCIP.
Other Phantoms are moving down.
A-4Es are going to 9.3 where they belong.
Nothing against USA is present.
@Morvran
Bombers aren’t fighters, they cannot be compared.
Bombers being effective at their BR are about survival rate and ground target/base destruction rate.
Of which the Bucc S2 does well despite the compression at around that BR.
Subsonics can’t kill it cause they’re too slow, Harriers can barely kill it, and supersonics are hit and miss. Some will give it just a challenge [F-100 and Mig-19] others will hurt it… normally they’re 10.3
Wait a minute… isn’t that outside the pantsir-S1s range of ~18km… oooooooooh I can already hear the Russian mains crying despite having 30km range Su-25 for weeks hahaha
Meanwhile XP-50 and Wyvern laugh as swarms of them completely dominate any match they get into.
Anywai, gaijin put the all aspect missile carrier up to 10.7 min, nothing below, not even the frogfoot.
Hmm? XP-50 doesn’t have ground armament and thus irrelevant to this topic.
And Wyvern’s armament is equivalent to F-6F’s.
Lower BR strike aircraft will be addressed later as per the devblog.
Id agree with all (even my beloved Sea harrier, though would need a few little buffs, which it should get anyway)
The only one im slightly tenative about is the Buc S2B which carrying 2x 9Ls is rarely actually done I think and it gets no other A2A weaponary like a gun
A-10 does have Fire and forget but its capability is hampered thanks to how slow that aircraft is and at 10.3 most AA can just shoot it down with Roland
the Early Mavericks also sucks really bad thanks to gaijin reducing its effectiveness with random hit location. Now not only you have a plane that cant dodge roland with more range than the Maverick lock range, you now lack the basic capability to effectively OHK enemies while Su-25 retains that with the big rockets that are super accurate and dont need to lock to launch
Ehhh tbf that one can stay, it’s a one trick (technically two of the same trick) wonder that’s useless against flare planes and is absolutely useless when it’s outta missiles.
(Oh, I mean unless you’re that one buccaneer main who got a 1:1 kill ratio from bombing enemy planes. That’s guys a legend and mega chad btw)
Awesome changes, but can you please do something about strategic bombers hardly ever being used anymore? The B-29 and Tu-4 are prime examples of planes that are able to perform at their current BR.
What I think they should try for the A-10/Su25 in GRB is another airspawn location, further away and maybe at a lower alt. Might give them a chance to spawn in and come in at a better angle
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S2B really shouldn’t move up, arguably should be 9.7 with the provision it can’t be downtiered.