except by MIG-23BN (that’s 9.7) all of them has missiles
Hahaha instead of not moving french tanks UP, gaijin decided to move even more of them up in BR this is so stupid. You guys complained and didn’t want amx 40 to go to 10.0 because no lineup and 0 reason to move it? Well now you will also get Vextra at 10.0 whole 2 vehicles 1 MBT and 1 shitty wheeled car
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Please note that in arcade AMX M4 now has the same BR as Lorraine 40t and AMX 50 100, both superior to it by a wide margin making the M4 completely redundant there. Both should move to at least 7.3 or even 7.7 like in RB.
Also, why not move the T-55 AM-1 with the AMD also in arcade? It’s actually superior to it, or at the very least equal.
I know it’s ‘only’ Arcade, but I happen to like it there.
Also thanks for giving the Vextra and EBR 1954 finally better shells. But I don’t think the EBR deserved this new BR increase again (how many now?)
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Why is the Japanese Uh-1B getting a non-historical modification? Is there any evidence of 4 x 19 rockets??
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Still german UC 556 going 12.3 despite it is worst vs french version.
And could you finally make TY90’s as NOT FREE so people cant just take free spawn and just camp anything flying with those missiles what you cant do anything against.
Shhhhhhh.
Have you actually tried to play it the way it was/is?
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The KV-1B shouldn’t be bumped to 4.0. Its the only good german heavy tank.
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Yes I tried, I even had a few kill. Additional rockets are not historical. They can immediately add 6 x Type 79 or Type 87.
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Since my 8.7 in USSR is main fun lineup, I see no issue with it going 9.0. Just gonna have finally reason to buy BMP-3. As for KV-1E going 4.3, meta changed years ago to the point armor no longer means something. So it doesn’t matter where it is, it’s just a meme thing. For French stuff, well, tough luck I guess. Probably more reason to place that Leo 2A4 in your lineup now, guys.
However, leaving PzH 2000 at 7.7 in Realistic is like spitting in everyone’s faces. VIDAR went 8.0 and it’s basically the same thing. So why leave 2000 at 7.7? I will never understand this idea. It has Laser Rangefinder, Semi-Autoloder, great mobility, powerful 155mm, roof protection. It’s 8.7 candidate. Come on now, guys.
How much I will give for Gaijin to actually have some real department that checks what vehicle underperforms and what overperforms. So these BR changes would have some meaning behind it. Not “let’s see today, what vehicle players find the hardest to play… oh it’s PzH 2000! okay, let’s leave it be”.
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Change the M-802 back to 3.7 T_T please
@Stona_WT @Smin1080p_WT Can you explain why the Q-5A and L have gone up in BR? This was asked when the initial changes were announced but we never got a reason for it.
As they are now they have:
- A very limited amount of countermeasures (18 total)
- Poor acceleration
- Poor top speed
- Limited to dumb bombs and rockets (L does get LGB’s but why would you take them and have to guide them in instead of just the drop and forget dumb bombs?)
- No air-to-air weapons (Other than the gun put that itself is pretty poor.)
- Awful flight performance, (Based off a MiG-19 but is much heavier without a substantial thrust upgrade)
There was clear negative responses to that change and yet it still went ahead without any explanation.
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Lets move R2Y2s to 7.3 after they get removed for those that dont have them so they wont notice the br change and cant cry about it.
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(seriously tho that thing aint 8.0 material)
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That would work too. But unfortunately it would push it up out of an “entry level” BR. Just giving it more dumb rockets doesn’t (plus they can just copy paste from the other UH-1Cs).
I am usually not the one calling for increasing br of a vehicle, but I must agree with premium KV-1 br increases.
While the tank didn’t feel unbeatable, it was always serious issue when appearing in the match to the point where it felt like a raid boss to beat. Unless the driver was clueless, it was always certain that the tank will decide the outcome of a match.
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It’s worth noting that those limitations that are being so conveniently put off are:
- Type 81 (C) is fully unable to launch a missile without a lock. This means targets such as aircraft at ranges exceeding lock ranges of 3-8km depending on the weather conditions and any ground vehicle are fully immune to the Type 81(C)s missiles.
- Type 81 (C) when launching in EO mode cannot lock targets below an artificially set altitude limit of 50m, making low flying helicopters immune below 50m altitude until reaching typical IR lock ranges between 2-4km, enough for the average TOW carrying 9.X helicopters to outrange it.
- Type 81 (C) when launching in IR mode is susceptible to IR jamming devices found on high BR helicopters, making them immune even within IR lock ranges.
- Type 81 (C) needs to be fully stationary when firing, making it more difficult to reposition and quickly react to threats compared to many other SAM in game.
And that’s assuming you even see the threat without a search radar…
If all the drawbacks are hard counters to it, people just don’t spawn it in such situation, or sit behind hard cover and do nothing all game just in case maybe some poor plane will come in where it can actually engage.
The only reason it is “Statistically one of the most effective SAM vehicles in the game” is because people don’t use it in such situations at all. If there is high flying yet close enough aircraft up people spawn it, and pretty much only then.
It’s an all or nothing vehicle, the way to avoid nothing is to only use it when you can get all. Statistics don’t show that, but anyone who ever played it can tell you just that.
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Move the new T-44 (FM) battle pass vehicle from 6.3 to 6.0 or reduce the reload from 7.3s to 6.0s and keep it at 6.3, this thing really shouldn’t be the same BR as the T-44-122 whilst being straight up worse - it has pretty mediocre armour, mid mobility but decent gun handling at the very least.
It literally as of right now has the same reload as the King Tiger whilst having a significantly worse gun at around the same BR lmao
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T55 and Obj.435 have no problems fighting 88a or m60
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Have you even… tried using the T-55’s dart? Its literally its APDS with fins. The m60A3 ERA will 100% eat its rounds (as it has before)
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brother you’re still giving merkavas uptiers without giving them any real armour
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Forget about the ERA of the M60A3, the base armour of the M60A1 (AOS) will withstand 3BM25, it’s an incredibly primitive APFSDS, I prefer to take APHE for the consistency atp.
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