Responding to Feedback on the Planned Battle Rating Changes April 2025

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Yeah, especially when the changes being requested arent based upon personal opinion but clear fact.

Im glad the B-26B vs B-26C issue finally got resolved as that was a classic one, it took too long to fix, but its not alone. The clearest at the moment imo, is the fact the J-34 is 9.3 in SB but the Hunter F6 is 9.0 in SB. The F6 is superior to the J34 in every single respect and it just makes absolutely no sense.

Its problems like that, which just confuse the hell out of me and make me question whether the CMs are really forwarding every suggestion or whether the devs even care. Though this time round there was no SB changes at all, so maybe it was noted for next time, but that is a poor excuse in itself

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You’re literally in the topic proving they didn’t ignore feedback.

You can say “They acknowledged feedback in a manner I disagree with.” instead and it be accurate to the facts.

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The quick reload speed of all tanks in the TKX (P) and Type 90s lineup gives them an advantage in many situations where fire rate plays a crucial role

Which is literally the only redeeming factor whilst being worse in practically every other category, and that advantage is already being chipped away at constantly by giving reload speed increases for other MBTs in lieu of fixing their issues or decompressing the BRs.

Despite lacking a search radar and having to deal with the drawbacks of missiles with IR seekers, such as target acquisition distance, it has a second seeker mode and embraces the benefit of such missiles that have fire and forget capabilities.

Despite lacking in every category and having to go up against jets that engage from 10-20km away, despite being unable to get a lock on anything over 5km, despite not being able to detect anything, despite being unable to lock onto drones, or helicopters or jets half the time for whatever reason, and despite all your feedback, we still treat our statistics like the holy grail of data and ignore everything else.

Statistics mean nothing, it just doesn’t die as often as it doesn’t get detected as easily BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE A RADAR AT TOP TIER.

The TKX (P) will still be able to be in the same lineup as the Type 81 (C), so its Battle Rating being raised doesn’t leave it without a lineup.

A single overtiered MBT with a single overtiered SPAA, what a stellar lineup.

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Absolute clownery.

And the Yak-9K with the unrealistic APHE continuing to remain severely undertiered along with the KV-1B/E. Russian Bias strikes again.

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Pantsir-S1 = 12.0
Type 81 (C) = 11.7
HQ17 = 11.3

The people who play this game would never do that.

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It was enough of a hassle playing top tier Japan with an overtiered SPAA. Now the SPAA is bloody worthless. Time to scrap my Japan line-up.

Bloody IvanBoos again, I swear. Ruining this game along with Gaijin.

Cute flag. I’m still over 9000% right.

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Given the sheer number of things that get brought up time and time again, such as the Tornado IDS BRs or the state of the British Phantoms. Its hard to accept any other conclusion than that they just pick and choose what feedback to record.

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I would like to say, as a person who has been playing the Japanese tree after finishing my French, I currently do not have the TKX (P). I got both of my Type 90s and then went for the Type 10. Having been playing off and on, I am still halfway to the Type 10. My 11.3 lineup now must count on praying I get placed with a team with decent SPAA because I will have reduced air defense as I must go back to the Type 93, and the only aircraft I have at my disposal is the over-tiered F-4EJ Kai (I get it has a good radar and decent missiles, but no ground ordinance and I have the Mirage F1’s which have even weaker armament and should also go down in GB rating, specially since the CT still hasn’t gotten any of its guided munitions). If the EJ Kai got its AAM-3 I could maybe see why, and also why I think the F-15J should go even farther to 11.7 at least as, unlike the F-15A it has no guided weapons and is just, like the Kai, a bomb truck that has to go against the Tor-M1/HQ17, both ADATS, FlaRakRad, the Pantsir-S1, (I’m going to leave Italy out of this because lets be real), and both ItO. If you want to use it for Air Superiority and run “CAP” you also have to contend with enemy air defenses. (I also really hope that we’re getting AI AAA to help even things out.)

TL:DR Make A2A only aircraft with lower GRB ratings and cheaper spawns.

P.S. I also think the F-16 ADF GB rating should go down, probably to 11.3 like the F-4EJ Kai.

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Still no reply on the f104 asa… guess they dont give a shit about it then. anyone else wanna help me tank the stats to see if we can get it moved down at all?

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Bro what… It’d be fantastic if it got airspawn and was moved to 5.3

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With all data being public, people could hand pick vehicles that seem the easiest to push up/down and try do it is as a challenge. I don’t really want some less played vehicles to suffer just because they aren’t as popular.

General player base is already trusting them with balance, which is something that works in many other PvP games already.

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the xp has been busted for far to long, i agree with you moving it up and not removing the air spawn would be great but gaijin refuse to move vehicles because they have set ranges they like to keep them at. They would rather remove aspects of it than move it up.

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“What would be going so wrong about F-4J(UK). It is just F-4J. We can use feedback from F-4J/S from USA instead, rather than wasting our storage with some silly brit footage. Nothing will go wrong.”

In Meanwhile
“WDYM, we can’t use IDS WTD61’s data for balancing IDS ASTTA1!”
“B-26C isn’t B-26B, so we can’t use feedback from B-26B. And that is why B-26C should have a higher BR”
“Ah, don’t forget to separate BR between D-28 and D-30!”

At this rate.
I can’t wait to see Spitfire LF Mk.IX on US TT goes down to 5.3BR while our/jewish one goes up to 6.0BR with no changes at all. :/

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THIS br change? lol, lmao even…

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That thankfully has been fixed.

So change that for why the J34 (a Hunter F4) is a higher BR than the Hunter F6 (france) in SB.

Its confusing as hell

But yeah, common sense seems to have little place in BR decisions

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I was responding to someone saying the P-47D-28 should be kept at 5.0

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The Kv-1E/B are atleast going to the BR they belong, and the Yak is going up too, just not enough.

I still think the best solution is to just remove the APHE from the 45mms, it’s unbalanced and questionably realistic.

Why on earth are you blaming a group you made up?

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thank god it still climbs like a rocket so it’ll still end up above most things

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Really nice to see OFL G2 on the Vextra. Many people are dragging it up to top tier anyways since France has no other light tank, it will make it much more useful for that. Far better than keeping it at 9.7 without a lineup with the old shell.

The Type 81 does well because the average top tier pilot has about one and a half braincells. The same thing stops SPAAs like the Pantsir, Tor or ItO from performing statistically as well as they should, you can actually use those wrong/badly, which many people do. It’s obvious which one should be better in the hands of a capable player, but Gaijin balances by the stats achieved by everyone.

I find it somewhat surprising that you seem to think that these vehicles should be balanced by their actual ability instead of achieved match performance, while at the same time calling the current version of the Brimstone underperforming garbage with the reasoning that making it work well requires a bit of effort.

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Literally has mopre post pen than 120 and 130mm AP shells and compareable overall damage to the tiger II APHE just more directional.

To be fair, there is no BR where it is not OP or useless. It is one or the other.

in fact I say the strongest BR for the thing is 7.3 as you meet the least SPAA, the least amount of counter CAS and you can kill essentially everything you meet except for a few german vehicles like the Maus.

At 7.7 you meet radar SPAA at 8.0 CAS is back again and 8.3 is just over as every match will have the CAS counter and SPAAs countering you.

And any BR below those is either a free match or an insta dead against 400 enemy planes.

They should just remove the APHE. I mean, has anyone finally found any source even mentioning such a shell existing for that cannon? Or even being considered?

That is next to impossible to happen unless Gaijin balances exclusively along the K/D, which is an almost useless stat when it comes to vehicle balance as my 3K/D in the Conq proves. Just because I would rather end a match with 0 kills than to die does not mean that the Conq is suddenly a good vehicle.

I mean we already know that Gaijin refuses to change BRs unless a certain amount of data has been gathered, so the “a minority could change it” is literally impossible as per Gaijins own rules on balancing. You know, because that minority would need to literally play tens of thousands of games to make a difference.

Almost every other similar game has open stats either via the publisher or third parties getting access via the publisher and that has never been an issue. You are worrying about a nothing burger that is stacked with exclusively arguments against your imaginative scenarios.

The general playerbase is trusing with balanceing? Mate you are in this threat. Can you read? Go to reddit and see what the response is there.

Almost no one trusts gaijins balancing. It is the worst i have ever seen in any game

And that feedback got only like 5 hearts with other at almost 20

I mean not that I mind, as I was the one to bring it up, but I guess ODDz video had better timing