Responding to Feedback on the Planned Battle Rating Changes April 2025

Why did you raise the BR of the F-4 Phantom II? It already spent most of its battles against the Pantsir, and now it will 100% hit it, and what should it do with it? But you did not touch the Pantsir S1 that you were asked about. Why is the Pantsir S1 at 12.0? It is several times more powerful than any SAM, what is the balance? Why should a Phantom from the 60s fight against a SAM from 2012?

You mean the tank we see once a year because only 50 people have it ?

I know that feeling, but this time two of my (well for sure i wasnt the only one but) feedback were considered and changed (the new shell for vextra and the new shell for the EBR), so don’t lose hope and keep asking for change !

Yes they did.
People want a light vehicle for France that can be used in top tier and now, with a better round, it surely will be much better.

@Morvran
The problem is, we don’t have 12.7 nor 13.0 for ground vehicles.

For the VEXTRA specifically, it should be a bit better yeah. For the AMX 30 and 32, the muzzle velocity is higher, and penetration is apparently around 470 with those guns using the G2, and more than 500 with the F2

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im grinding for the F-4E but now im sad

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I think tkx(p) should up to 12.0 with type 10 apfsds. Because 11.7br is too close to 12.0 but jm33 is so far away from any top apfsds. Tkxp have all same equipments but apfsds as type 10

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Are y’all ever going to address decompression? We’ve not only not seen decompression of jets but actually the undoing of previous decompression moves!

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What an L change

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It doesn’t even seem like they said they were going to start listening to what the community wanted, once again they are going back to being the way they were before.

roadmap with changes became a reminder of dark times

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Which rarely works

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Specifically and just looking at Rank VIII (though Ranks V, VI, and VII have also gotten a lot more compressed in the last year)

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I flew it recently and every time I hit the Pantsir. Just no chance.

Criticial time to remove gaijin’s snail inspired by Kobayashi Issa’s haiku and replace gaijin’s hiragana company name.just let them destroy this tech tree thoroughly to stop japan players suffering.

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I grind the F-4E for the 65B cuz i wanna try it and use it for CAS while grinding the F-15E line
i mean i got uptier all the time so dying to SPAA or dying to Su-30/34 is inevitable anyway

Mode: Air Realistic

Aircraft: F-14A IRIAF

Change: 13.0 → 12.7

Reasoning: Even at its own BR, this plane is outclassed by all others. Every other plane has its own fun playstyle. The Harriers are good in CQC and have Aim-120s, the Viggen DI21 has AMRAAMS and boom and zoom capability. The SARH slingers have the best SARH in the game at their disposal, or are very gifted in the flight model department. Even the IR missile slingers have huge CM counts, great avionics, and retention. The F-14A with Fakours has none of those qualities for its very boring playstyle. You climb, fire your missiles, and try to fight with the worst engine to plane and IR missile to BR matchups. Aim-9Ps and Aim-7E-2s at 13.0 is ridiculous. And for what niche you do fill out in the F-14, other planes do it better. At the same BR, the F-4KWS does the same thing but better, so does the F-14B (barely), and even planes like the SU-27 with 10~ R-27ERs easily control the airspace better than this jet with faster phoenixes from the 1970s.

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no
no more BR change
thats usually it
you have to wait for next BR change and hope that its decompression

Just because it’s not “fun” doesn’t mean it’s not effective. The Fakour is still the longest-range, highest-energy missile in the game by leaps and bounds, on by far the fastest ARH platform at the BR (excluding other F-14s). If you don’t enjoy the BVR play style then don’t play it.

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Are you forgetting that the AMX-13 has a retreat speed of 6.8 km/h? His maneuverability is not enough to function compared to the 7.3+ light vehicles that could be hostile.

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