Responding to Feedback on the Planned Battle Rating Changes April 2025

That’s surprisingly a first to see, HUZZAH!! HUZZAH!! HUZZAH!! the Italian Ciclone class Torpedo Boat Ghibli goes down in BR, although they could go down a bit further but for now it’s a start at 3.7 (or the devs make a mod to add a third 100 mm/47 Model 1928 in place of the dual 20 mm/65 an keep it 3.7).

I’d wish they did further vessel BR changes over two extra.

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so, when will these come to live?

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Move the AMX-13, AMX M4 and E.B.R. (1954) to 9.0 so they don’t overperform on 7.0

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Honestly it’s a storm in a teacup. There are a lot of other issues regarding battle rating placemente like the PLZ05 and PzH 2000 with ability to face in-war WW2 vehicles at battle rating 6.7;

Type 90 at battle rating 11.3 and TKX (P) at battle rating 11.7 instead of the opposite, practically both are the same but considering Type 10’s mobility issue, it’s far inferior.

KV-1E is a seasonal issue, KV-1B is a incommon issue, the Yak-9K in a match even rarer compared to the vehicles I’ve mentioned.

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Even more compression specially at battle rating 9.0 and battle rating 10.3.

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Out of nowhere i see a drop of the US P-47 from 5.0 to 4.7 in Air RB.

I am not sure if you have realized that the US P-47 D-28 is identical to the P-47 D-30 we have in the Italian and Chinese TT. The air brake of the D-30s is not really decisive for average players.

So if you finally managed to align the BRs of the French B-26 with the US version (to RB 4.3) it would make sense that you avoid such deviations (D-28 vs D-30) upfront any planned changes.

Btw:

Imho the current BR of the US D-28 of 5.0 is fine. If they suffer more than the IT or CHN D-30s this is just based on MM (nation pairing), uptier frequency and average skill level of their pilots. It is a fantastic aircraft, even admitting that the P-51 D-30 at the same BR is the better aircraft…

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A-5C does not deserve a nerf at all. Nobody plays it already because there is no use for it at 10.7. It’s a bloody Mig-19…

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Are rare issue for russian fanboys not for the rest of the players…

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While the AMX-13 is indeed dumb to increase, the AMX M4 is completely understandable to go to a higher BR. The AMX M4 after the shell buffs literally just feels unfair to play and to the opponents. The EBR 1954 is a strange decision, but with the added (and deserved) shell, it shouldn’t struggle much in a 7.0 BR. I’m a French main aswell, but please stop defending the AMX M4 for no reason when it’s clear that it’s busted. Atleast now I can also use my AuF1 in its intended BR and have a line-up with it.

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Second this.

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It’s really easy to front pen the amx m4 on it’s strongest side, it barely has any armor, disabling it is even more easier for all the m4 series since they have no stab nor little stabilization.

That is just on ennemies not learning weakspot, there is no need for increase of br for it.

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Kugelblitz should go down to 6.7 in realistic battle, it have worse fire rpm, ammunition expenditure& turret rotation speed

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And how exactly is the amx13 or m4 better in a ground battle than a tiger 2? All they have is mobility. Its just crazy how clueless the people doing balancing are

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TKX(P) AND PZH2000 GOT A RAISE IN BR ON ARCADE BATTLES

They deserve it every single bit,and if that’s not sufficient for the Pzh2000 then 8.3 will be a suitable BR for it,we will see

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I must been high when I played battle rating 4.0 matches and didn’t seen any of the vehicles you mentioned then.

Maybe you do play more than me and actually did see it, I can’t argue about this.

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Kudos to devs, now Vextra sounds like actually usable vehicle instead of meme wagon.

That being said im sad that most of the feedback was ignored yet again, including some of the most heavily requested changes.

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Well additionally I think that people try to shoot it fast because they all look alike so they think its one of AMXs (and all except Somua all have weak turret armor) and next surprise… (I did this mistake more than once)

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ahh ruining more lineups again, fantastic

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This logic makes no sense, if you can clearly see the TKX (P) and type 90 are seeing in your own words, “comparatively very weak tanks” then they should all move away from it. This entire statement contradicts itself :(

A very good choice.

On top of all this, what about the countless requests for a new BR for the 2a7’s and STRV122’s for some decompression

EDIT: So we moved all the major players top cas up , EF2000’s, Su34s, Su30, Rafale etc, but left the USA with the F15E and isreal with the F15I at 12.7?

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Okay, then lemme spell out all the pros of the AMX M4, so you also somehow notice them.

  • Better turret traverse than most opponents
  • Better HP/T than any medium tanks and barely slower than light tanks (that is if it’s slower)
  • Better reverse speed than literally any vehicle that doesn’t have a reverse gearbox
  • Max 259mm pen and 1030 m/s velocity with a round that has no problem one-shotting vehicles on well-placed shots or critically disabling them
  • 6.7 reload with an autoloader that doesn’t require aceing your crew.
  • -10 depression sufficient for any combat situations
  • Sufficent armor that definitely can deflect shots sometimes (armor should never be relied on for the most part, but having enough armor to sometimes deflect shots is nice to have)

A Tiger 2 is only better in the fact that it has APHE and a nearly impenetratable front (there are still HEAT-using vehicles tho), IS-2 has nothing better aside from having a good angled pen with APHE, American 6.7 heavies are all overweight and slow that trade pen for reload and the medium vehicles at this BR fall short on some points aswell. The AMX M4 literally doesn’t have any significant weakness aside from not having smoke and has no problem at excelling in many situations. If you genuinely use armor as the only main point of why it shouldn’t be uptiered, sorry to say, but that’s some genuine skill issue.

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