Responding to Feedback on the Planned Battle Rating Changes April 2025

[Rollender_Tod]

A-5C does not deserve a nerf at all. Nobody plays it already because there is no use for it at 10.7. It’s a bloody Mig-19…

[Jagd27]

@Константинович7

KV-1E is a seasonal issue, KV-1B is a incommon issue, the Yak-9K in a match even rarer compared to the vehicles I’ve mentioned.

Are rare issue for russian fanboys not for the rest of the players…

[HunLepto]

While the AMX-13 is indeed dumb to increase, the AMX M4 is completely understandable to go to a higher BR. The AMX M4 after the shell buffs literally just feels unfair to play and to the opponents. The EBR 1954 is a strange decision, but with the added (and deserved) shell, it shouldn’t struggle much in a 7.0 BR. I’m a French main aswell, but please stop defending the AMX M4 for no reason when it’s clear that it’s busted. Atleast now I can also use my AuF1 in its intended BR and have a line-up with it.

[A_Random_Rin]

@Real K Soze@live

I am not sure if you have realized that the US P-47 D-28 is identical to the P-47 D-30 we have in the Italian and Chinese TT. The air brake of the D-30s is not really decisive for average players.

Second this.

[_OceanFish]

It’s really easy to front pen the amx m4 on it’s strongest side, it barely has any armor, disabling it is even more easier for all the m4 series since they have no stab nor little stabilization.

That is just on ennemies not learning weakspot, there is no need for increase of br for it.

[Detach0-0]

Kugelblitz should go down to 6.7 in realistic battle, it have worse fire rpm, ammunition expenditure& turret rotation speed

[rb2600]

And how exactly is the amx13 or m4 better in a ground battle than a tiger 2? All they have is mobility. Its just crazy how clueless the people doing balancing are

[iMatty01]

TKX(P) AND PZH2000 GOT A RAISE IN BR ON ARCADE BATTLES

They deserve it every single bit,and if that’s not sufficient for the Pzh2000 then 8.3 will be a suitable BR for it,we will see

[Константинович7]

I must been high when I played battle rating 4.0 matches and didn’t seen any of the vehicles you mentioned then.

Maybe you do play more than me and actually did see it, I can’t argue about this.

[Beeschurger]

@Stona_WT

Vextra 105

Based on feedback a new shell, the OFL 105 G2 will be added and the Battle Rating of this vehicle will be raised to 10.0 so that it can be taken into an effective lineup with the AMX-40 and even some vehicles at a higher Battle Rating. This new shell has slightly more penetration than the 105 mm DM63.

Kudos to devs, now Vextra sounds like actually usable vehicle instead of meme wagon.

That being said im sad that most of the feedback was ignored yet again, including some of the most heavily requested changes.

[ganJ]

Well additionally I think that people try to shoot it fast because they all look alike so they think its one of AMXs (and all except Somua all have weak turret armor) and next surprise… (I did this mistake more than once)

[DIRTYBOMB]

ahh ruining more lineups again, fantastic

[An_Pigeon]

@Stona_WT

The quick reload speed of all tanks in the TKX (P) and Type 90s lineup gives them an advantage in many situations where fire rate plays a crucial role, which affects their effectiveness. At the moment, we decided to raise the Battle Rating only for the TKX (P) and will evaluate the results. The increase of Battle Rating for this tank does not result in it meeting any new opponents, but moves it away from the comparatively very weak tanks. In the future, depending on the efficiency of the lineup, we’ll make decisions on Battle Ratings for the Type 90s, which remain unchanged at the moment.

This logic makes no sense, if you can clearly see the TKX (P) and type 90 are seeing in your own words, “comparatively very weak tanks” then they should all move away from it. This entire statement contradicts itself :(

@Stona_WT

Based on feedback a new shell, the OFL 105 G2 will be added and the Battle Rating of this vehicle will be raised to 10.0 so that it can be taken into an effective lineup with the AMX-40 and even some vehicles at a higher Battle Rating. This new shell has slightly more penetration than the 105 mm DM63.

A very good choice.

On top of all this, what about the countless requests for a new BR for the 2a7’s and STRV122’s for some decompression

[HunLepto]

Okay, then lemme spell out all the pros of the AMX M4, so you also somehow notice them.

• Better turret traverse than most opponents
• Better HP/T than any medium tanks and barely slower than light tanks (that is if it’s slower)
• Better reverse speed than literally any vehicle that doesn’t have a reverse gearbox
• Max 259mm pen and 1030 m/s velocity with a round that has no problem one-shotting vehicles on well-placed shots or critically disabling them
• 6.7 reload with an autoloader that doesn’t require aceing your crew.
• -10 depression sufficient for any combat situations
• Sufficent armor that definitely can deflect shots sometimes (armor should never be relied on for the most part, but having enough armor to sometimes deflect shots is nice to have)

A Tiger 2 is only better in the fact that it has APHE and a nearly impenetratable front (there are still HEAT-using vehicles tho), IS-2 has nothing better aside from having a good angled pen with APHE, American 6.7 heavies are all overweight and slow that trade pen for reload and the medium vehicles at this BR fall short on some points aswell. The AMX M4 literally doesn’t have any significant weakness aside from not having smoke and has no problem at excelling in many situations. If you genuinely use armor as the only main point of why it shouldn’t be uptiered, sorry to say, but that’s some genuine skill issue.

[An_Pigeon]

@Beeschurger

That being said im sad that most of the feedback was ignored yet again, including some of the most heavily requested changes.

As always mate as always

[LamawDoniczce]

I think that amx50 sublinde or whatever it is called on 7.7 should go to 8.0 because it is too op

[99_Skill_Issues]

Previously there were at least columns for SIM in the spreadsheets. These also have been removed now. Sim completely abandoned now?

[_QAQ]

kfir and kurmass2000 still overtiered, IR only VS ARH missiles so fair

[Capt_Dial_up]

I like how gaijin says that an spaa and one tank is a line up.

[LostPlayer2023]

But depression