2s38 has horrible statistics due to it being a popular premium, gaijin operates almost solely on statistics
IMO the T55AM-1 should be at 9.0 in AB too. It’s composite armor works better than on some heavies it faces while it’s gun fired rocket fired makes the protection on the late WW2 tanks it fights a bad joke while running circles around them with it’s boosted mobility and stabilized gun.
As if listened to advices…
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Lmao, yet another BR update, and the Ayit does not move up in ARB.
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Type 81(C) literally cannot deal with any helicopters hovering in base at low speed, the seeker will literally not find them (unless they start moving quickly)… Aside, it is completely helpless against any aicraft flying at high altitude and the second any aircaft launches ordnance against it, it’s practically dead (sometimes the seeker will find incoming missiles, most of the times it wont and it can’t smoke itself up).
So a SAM that already has severe capability-gaps at it’s own BR, that cannot deal with an entire class of aircraft at all, gets moved up because people happen to fly too close to one and get blown up…
ADATS, FlaRakRad, TOR, HQ17 all have the ability to deal with pretty much any aerial threat (they’re still outclassed by most cas, but that’s beside the point). They can deal with helicopters and aircraft at long ranges, can detect them early (due to not being dependant on aircraft actually rendering, which they tend not to at long ranges).
The Type 81(C) is significantly more situational, the second any aircraft, regardless of type, is aware of it’s existence, it is immediately rendered useless. Any helicopter can literally faceplant itself infront of it, hover at min speed and will (almost) never get locked, any aircraft can simply stay at high elevation and either avoid detection, or can simply outrange it.
People being oblivious to an SAM that doesnt ping their RWR 50 times on approach should not be an excuse to uptier an already situational vehicle that has severe capability-gaps at it’s own BR.
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This is not doing enough. Air realistic needs dozens of changes that aren’t listed here.
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The A-10A Late and A-6E TRAM haven’t been changed, so why does the AMX (jet) have to be moved to BR 11.0?
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Sorry, 6 seconds of reloading of the 300mm gun + penetration, 120mm gun and good armor with okay mobility, and such a vehicle fights on Tigers 2 h or p t26, is unfair
When will Gaijin realize that it’s normal for some vehicles to perform above or below the average, and that this is not inherently a problem?
There is a major difference between a vehicle being “overpowered” and simply being strong within its role. Constantly raising or lowering Battle Ratings (BR) to force every vehicle into the middle of the statistical average is not healthy game design.
Balance should be grounded in hard vehicle characteristics first—things like armor, mobility, firepower, and historical or technical capabilities—and only corrected using statistics when clear outliers emerge (such as the Object 279).
Right now, Gaijin seems to rely almost exclusively on raw performance data without considering the deeper context. There is no sign of real nuance in their BR adjustments: no regard for how changes affect lineups, no thought about whether a vehicle will become redundant, and no exploration of alternative balancing methods like small performance tweaks, module changes, or lineup reworks.
Not every overperforming or underperforming vehicle is incorrectly placed in the tech tree—sometimes their strengths or weaknesses are natural consequences of their design. Simply reacting to stats without understanding the why leads to bad decisions, and we’ve seen it repeatedly: vehicles being rendered completely obsolete, lineups falling apart, and previously popular machines becoming unplayable.
For more than a decade, War Thunder has relied on this simplistic, outdated balancing method. Even as the player base has grown (removing the old “queue time” excuse against BR decompression), they have refused to innovate or adopt more sophisticated balancing systems. It’s frustrating and disappointing to see no meaningful evolution, even when the community has pointed out the flaws for years.
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Look how stupid gaijin picked up the char25t or amx50 90mm on 8.0 even though the char and this amx50 are TERRIBLE on 8.0, the penetration of 209mm on 8.0 is a joke, let alone on br 9.0, and such a heavy amx50 that is really op has 7.7 where is the sense here.
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And once again, they ignore the community.
Especially the SIM community
@Stona_WT any official comment on why any and all development for Air SIM has been abandoned?
No BR changes, no new brackets, no new maps, no map updates. Etc etc
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Hahah so true first thought with the new shell Vextra at 10.0 BR was to take it into top tier with Leclerc and maybe even bring Somua to fill a gap because am researching my first Leclerc
I would like to add to this that the Super Etendard will now be at 11.0 without getting access to stock missiles.
The AMX which will also move to 11.0 gets its missiles stock and they are all-aspect AIM-9Ls, plainly better than the rear-aspect Magic 1.
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I dont get why we again dont get any changes to the broken russian IFV. No changes to the Bmp 3, Bmd 4s and 2S38. Vehicles that have everything and are completely broken in the hands of a decent player.
Also there are no changes to the planes that are paying the Python 3 tax like the Kurnass 2000, Kfir C7 and Jh7. Mirage 2k CS4 still lower than the Cs5 while having the same FM and weapons kit - the maw.
I agree on the Merkavas from 9.3 going to 9.7 but the 2D going to 10.0, I am still not certain about as you already have issues on 9.7 fighting the 10.7 due to the poor performance of the shell. Maybe consider giving it a new shell to compensate for the up BR like the M426 form the gal batash
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Vautours go down in Ground RB but not Air RB?! LOL
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why exactly is the super etendard going to 11.0? also aren’t the italian amx’s already quite unpopular at 10.7?
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Because there is no nuance to it, Russian vehicles are popular = more newbies playing them = average stats. The devs simply have no game design knowledge
but why would the super etendard go to 11.0 ? it’s not that strong anyway is it?
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Because the playerbase dont know how/want to play spaa or cap
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Mode: Air Realistic
Vehicle: F4F-Early (germany)
BR Change: 10,7 → 10,0
Reasoning: Its the only flaresless plane that sits so high. It constantly faces planes with all aspect IR missiles. It only has rear aspect 18G IR missiles to defend itself. It even has to face potent radar missiles which it cant defend without chaff.
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