Yes, they are no longer black holes of damage absorption
i make this very scuffed sketch on how turret basket would protect crew, the red is the spall/the projectile, the blue is armor, green is the crew(rip driver) the green horizontal is the basket boundary(smaller and circle irl)
basically the projectile would lose energy when it goes through the front plate, if it penned it shrapnel out into the first compartment and when it reach the basket the basket plate would bounce the shrapnel or catch it or the plate would be destroyed but the crew remain safe
but this is how it is ingame
(the resolution is also scuffed because i have to draw on phone)
also note the first image the project should also reach the yellow engine compartment
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as my FIRST statement “he got gaijined”
the rest: he shouldnt even be alive after the abrams shot in the first place and insane skill issue after getting gaijined
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the turret basket is not designed to stop spall. It can catch spalled debriss if the energy of the impact is absorbed by the armor of the tank first. Its no different from a bible stopping a bullet after its gone through the vest
You speak incredibly broken English, so it’s not truly my fault I don’t understand you.
literally what i draw and just said
My only ground games are in the abrams since the patch and must say, the turret basket has changed absolutely nothing for me.
the tanks still great fun.
So dunno what the crying is about?
Caveat : what did get under my skin was a Leopard 2A7 firing clean through my left turret cheek somehow.
Think the models are acting up again.
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As much as it pains me to agree, I do.
The issue why abrams suffers in top tier is nothing to do with the tank, its one of the better top tiers, its the teams of melons who leave with one death (or none due to the map or whatever)
That leaves it at the mercy of enemy teams.
which BTW even in russian, german, british, isreali etc etc teams it makes no difference how good the tanks are. You will get stomped.
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Not sure man. It’s got strong contenders. Am i correct in my assumption you haven’t been around when the glorious “ground breaking” aka gamebreaking got released? It’s always like this. always has been. It’s a downgrade for 1-2 weeks and some persistent some bugs last half a year.
Stuff gets fixed and then its good again. If it annoys you too much just find something else to do for 2 weeks. It’s always the same and so far it was never worth going crazy about it.
Unless you want them to stop updating the game? Cause i can promise you it will be the same with the next update. and the one after that. and…
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If it actually be modelled i wouldnt care if it eats spall or not. The main issue is that if u shoot m1 and t tank,
M1 cant shoot cuz it got its hori drive meanwhile if u shoot t tank it still can traverse and shoot. Not to mention autoloader eats all the spall.
This basiclly makes t tanks have 2nd chance that other tanks dont rly have.
So yeah t tanks should get their basket aswell
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NATO mains:
“haha that is a non-issue bro”
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I’m a Russian main and was fine with autoloaders being modelled. The only thing I’m getting here is that NATO mains can’t objectively look at their tanks. If they’re not the best its unacceptable.
Can’t say I’m surprised.
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You got me, my ego is as busted as the 2A7V 😢
That’s not the case and is simply the wrong way to look at things. We don’t want perfection, we want accurate modeling/adjustments/feedback and bug report implementation. There have been reports on turret basket, bustle, adjustments that predate the turret basket problem that were already put to the devs a while ago. And instead of using said feedback and fact finding, a fictional implementation has been provided.
Fine by me, I’m all for it 🤷♂️
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I’m all for a more realistic implementation as well.
My issue is with NATO mains complaining that it should have never been added in the first place, because it “nerfs” their tanks, realism be damned.
I’m just happy the inside of Abrams and Leopards aren’t so hollow anymore.
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I can understand that point of view. I dont mond having more detailed modules either visually it looks a lot more appealing.
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Wow that is wild, not even modeled for any value just an invisible part. This is where we are at
Did you know that the appearance of Soviet autoloaders has nothing to do with reality? For the T-72, part of the autoloader was a steel round plate consisting of 2.5mm steel and 30mm podboi. It does not participate in the autoloader at all.
For the T-80 autoloader they added a steel frame, which also does not participate in the operation, with no mechanical parts added in the center.
Notice no one even noticed how inaccurate the autoloader was made