Research Penalty?

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Research penalty… if I’m researching a Tier IV tank and start the match with a Tier III… if that dies and then I use a Tier II, will I still get penalized for the portion of the game I used the Tier II? Or since I started with Tier III, I’m good?

I looked at the messages/battles where it shows all the RP and SL gained from a game. Found a game where I used the AMX-13-m24 and I’m researching the ELC Bis. Didn’t show any deductions, but not sure if that’s built into the rewards and not shown? See below…

I know it works for the hard task if you start with Tier III and then drop to II, and complete the task with a Tier II it counts.

Defeat in the [Domination #1] White Rock Fortress mission!

Destruction of aircraft 2 11063 SL 365 RP
7:12 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) P-51A 130 mission points — (full reward) 6146 + ¶3073 = 9219 SL 77 + ¶154 + (Talismans)77 = 308 RP
7:22 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) ◌C-3604 20 mission points Own target (the rest of the reward) 1229 + ¶615 = 1844 SL 14 + ¶29 + (Talismans)14 = 57 RP

Destruction of ground targets 1 2250 SL 208 RP
10:46 AMX-13-M24 M61 shot Marder III H 175 mission points 1500 + ¶750 = 2250 SL 52 + ¶104 + (Talismans)52 = 208 RP

Severe damage to the enemy 1 7376 SL 232 RP
7:22 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) ◌C-3604 79 mission points 4917 + ¶2459 = 7376 SL 58 + ¶116 + (Talismans)58 = 232 RP

Critical damage to the enemy 3 1373 SL 73 RP
7:22 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) ◌C-3604 33 mission points 615 + ¶308 = 923 SL 7 + ¶14 + (Talismans)7 = 28 RP
10:46 AMX-13-M24 M61 shot Marder III H 52 mission points 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL 5 + ¶10 + (Talismans)5 = 20 RP
11:35 AMX-13-M24 M61 shot T77E1 60 mission points 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL 6 + ¶13 + (Talismans)6 = 25 RP

Damage to the enemy 12 3444 SL 173 RP
7:11 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) P-51A 11 mission points 307 + ¶154 = 461 SL 4 + ¶8 + (Talismans)4 = 16 RP
7:12 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) P-51A 11 mission points 307 + ¶154 = 461 SL 4 + ¶8 + (Talismans)4 = 16 RP
7:12 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) P-51A 11 mission points 307 + ¶154 = 461 SL 4 + ¶8 + (Talismans)4 = 16 RP
7:21 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) ◌C-3604 11 mission points 307 + ¶154 = 461 SL 4 + ¶8 + (Talismans)4 = 16 RP
7:22 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) ◌C-3604 11 mission points 307 + ¶154 = 461 SL 4 + ¶8 + (Talismans)4 = 16 RP
7:22 Yak-3(France) Air targets (12.7mm) ◌C-3604 11 mission points 307 + ¶154 = 461 SL 4 + ¶8 + (Talismans)4 = 16 RP
10:46 AMX-13-M24 M61 shot Marder III H 20 mission points 75 + ¶38 = 113 SL 3 + ¶6 + (Talismans)3 = 12 RP
11:35 AMX-13-M24 M61 shot T77E1 20 mission points 75 + ¶38 = 113 SL 3 + ¶7 + (Talismans)3 = 13 RP
11:40 AMX-13-M24 I (12.7mm) T77E1 20 mission points 75 + ¶38 = 113 SL 3 + ¶7 + (Talismans)3 = 13 RP
11:44 AMX-13-M24 API-T (12.7mm) T77E1 20 mission points 75 + ¶38 = 113 SL 3 + ¶7 + (Talismans)3 = 13 RP
11:48 AMX-13-M24 Default (7.62mm) T77E1 20 mission points 75 + ¶38 = 113 SL 3 + ¶7 + (Talismans)3 = 13 RP
11:54 AMX-13-M24 Default (7.62mm) T77E1 20 mission points 75 + ¶38 = 113 SL 3 + ¶7 + (Talismans)3 = 13 RP

Takeoffs 1 72 RP
5:57 Yak-3(France) 18 + ¶36 + (Talismans)18 = 72 RP

Capture of zones 1 5850 SL 797 RP
9:27 AMX-13-M24 100% 300 mission points 3900 + ¶1950 = 5850 SL 199 + ¶399 + (Talismans)199 = 797 RP

Scouting of the enemy 1 66 SL
2:05 AMX-13 (FL11) Pvkv II 5 mission points without UAV 44 + ¶22 = 66 SL

Damage taken by scouted enemies 2 264 SL
2:10 AMX-13 (FL11) Pvkv II 20 mission points without UAV 88 + ¶44 = 132 SL
2:28 AMX-13 (FL11) Pvkv II 20 mission points without UAV 88 + ¶44 = 132 SL

Destruction by allies of scouted enemies 1 660 SL 34 RP
2:28 AMX-13 (FL11) Pvkv II 60 mission points without UAV × 440 + ¶220 = 660 SL 17 + ¶17 = 34 RP

Awards 6 2250 SL 200 RP
2:29 Intelligence 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
2:43 Help with Repairing 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
7:22 Avenger 150 + ¶75 = 225 SL 0 RP
7:22 Multi strike! 100 + ¶50 = 150 SL 0 RP
10:46 Tank Rescuer 50 + ¶25 = 75 SL 0 RP
12:10 The Best Squad 1000 + ¶500 = 1500 SL 100 + ¶100 = 200 RP

Activity Time 4998 SL 407 RP
AMX-13-M24 1000 + ¶1000 = 2000 SL 62 + ¶124 + (Talismans)62 = 248 RP
AMX-13 (FL11) 652 + ¶652 = 1304 SL 67 + ¶67 = 134 RP
Yak-3(France) 847 + ¶847 = 1694 SL 6 + ¶13 + (Talismans)6 = 25 RP

Time Played 10:46 2014 RP
AMX-13-M24 91% 4:07 277 + ¶554 + (Talismans)277 = 1108 RP
AMX-13 (FL11) 61% 4:52 239 + ¶239 = 478 RP
Yak-3(France) 70% 1:47 107 + ¶214 + (Talismans)107 = 428 RP

Reward for participating in the mission 7470 SL

Skill Bonus 189 RP
AMX-13-M24 I 93 RP
AMX-13 (FL11) I 49 RP
Yak-3(France) I 47 RP

Earned: 47064 SL, 4764 CRP
Activity: 89%
Damaged Vehicles: AMX-13-M24, AMX-13 (FL11), Yak-3(France)
Automatic repair of all vehicles: -2727 SL
Automatic purchasing of ammo and “Crew Replenishment”: -255 SL

Researched unit:
P-63C-5(France): 1293 RP
ELC bis: 1725 RP

Researching progress:
AMX-13-M24 - Mark of distinction: 2576 RP

Session: 6a529a9003113e4
Total: 44082 SL, 4764 CRP, 5594 RP

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The end of battle results can show the RP earned and tier-penalty a bit better. (This is the screen you get when the match finishes with you still being involved, or spectating. Not the one available from the hangar).
I really only play Air RB, so I’m not sure how multi-vehicle-across-tiers show up, but if you hover over RP numbers in that end of battle screen you’ll get a breakdown of how it’s calculated including explicitly showing the Tier penalty.

Hopefully someone else with similar experience to yours can answer better, but just also check out the end of battle screen to see if it shows it better then the hangar battle result screen.

Edit:
This is the bit I mean, but I’m not sure (from memory) if it shows multiple lines for multi-vehicle matches

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Yes

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Yeah… crap ;)

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the penalties are way too harsh personally

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Ah well… at least we now know.
It’d be great if the hangar results screen could show this particular info… I don’t know why they show different things (except for the breakdown of individual hits and such, that is probably only useful in the hangar screen).

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if the Yak-3 was researching a vehicle two ranks above then the rewards you would’ve gotten is 845rp. That’s how absurd the penalty is.
If it was flipped and it was two ranks below you’d get 634.

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Yes