Request to Review and Restore the BR of the F-14B

Hello War Thunder Development Team and Community,

After extensive gameplay experience and statistical observation, many players — including myself — believe that the current Battle Rating of the F-14B (13.0 in Air RB) is too high for its actual in-game performance.
For this reason, we kindly request that its BR be reviewed and potentially reduced back to 12.7, or to a more appropriate value.

Reasons for this request:

  1. Matchmaking Issues:
    At BR 13.0, the F-14B frequently faces opponents with superior radar systems, defensive suites, and missile capabilities, which significantly limits its effectiveness in most engagements.

  2. Performance Data:
    Based on player experience and available statistics (K/D ratio, win rate, overall efficiency), the F-14B tends to perform worse than other jets at the same BR level.
    If needed, we can provide additional data or video examples to support this point.

  3. Decreased Usage and Gameplay Diversity:
    Since the BR increase, fewer players choose the F-14B, which negatively impacts variety in top-tier gameplay and reduces the presence of aircraft that previously helped maintain balanced matches.

We fully respect the development team’s efforts to maintain fair and healthy game balance, and we kindly ask that the BR of the F-14B be reconsidered in a future review.

Thank you for your time and attention.
Looking forward to your feedback.

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Current state of F-14B aside, surely it would be easy to throw in some numbers or voting poll results, if thats true, no? ;)

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Also, the nerf to Fakur 90

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F-14B just needs AIM-9M

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im incompletely agree

Well, I guess I’ll just have to bet on 14D. Though it probably won’t come anytime soon… For now, let’s hope for improvements to the 14B environment.

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only if F-14A goes to 12.3 or gets 9L

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If anything it’s due for a buff when the Aim-54s do.

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The F-14A is already treading a very very fine line being 12.7. But the F-14B has none of the same deficits that the F-14A has, so no. It should not go down.

IR buffs. Maybe, but the typical 13.0 ARH slinger like the Viggen DI, does not have IRCCM.

Harriers are subsonic, so its a counter-active buff for them and the F3 Late/ICE should be 13.3 but cant due to compression.

Id personally start with BOL overhaul to buff the F-14B. Would also be a good buff for the Viggen DI and FA2 as well, other aircraft not that hot at the moment

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Except that its not even a contest with the 54s vs AIM-120s.

The AIM-54 is and has always been just a attention check of a missile, it is a non-threat to anyone with a functioning motor cortex.

Is this AIM-54 buff in the room with us now? I’ve pretty much given up on expecting such, there has been minor tweaks here and there but thats it for years now.

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considering that global average KD of warthunder playerbase is somewhere around 0.6?

thats threat to large portion of playerbase.

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What is this fine line? Having worse SARH missiles and IR missiles than the most popular plane all full BR lower than you? With very comparable avoinics and flightmodels?

This is false, only the 14s, Kfir C10 and Viggen Ds fall to this rule. Notice that the only ones without them have modern ARH missiles, and not the Phoneix or Fakour. Stuff like the J-8, harriers, F-5TH, and the other 2 you mentioned that should be 13.3, all have IRCCM.

That’s 7:5 in favor of IRCCM being standard, and even with Copy and Paste being removed, it’s still 5:4. (3 if you think the IRIAF is copypaste).

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I wish, but I mean when the Phoenix A gets the changes in deserves to it’s seeker, so will the Fakour. Naturally this would apply for manuverability buffs too.

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Hu?

It has identical SARH to most 12.0-13.0 Western aircraft, but gets ARH missiles at 12.7 instead of 13.0 like literally everyone else.

Harriers ares subsonic, so they get IRCCM.

F-5TH has 2x Aim-9M and 2x Derby. Not an overly heavy loadout at all. I think the IRCCM are the only reason its 13.0 and not 12.7

J-8F only recently got them and I did forget about those, though there was a big concern that it would push them to 13.3 AND it does also only have 2x PL-12s. Most are 13.0 have 4.

So

Does the F-14A or B have only 2x ARH missiles or is it subsonic?

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Though it is still notable how 14B and phantom ICE are at the same BR.
Garbage radar VS decent one.
9km ACM-only VS proper 19km HMD
8 dogwater missiles (for 13.0) VS 8 great missiles (even at 14.0)

Even though the tomcat has miles better FM, it is all the above things that matter for 90% of your performance in 2025 ARB.

Point being if one of those two (and the better one, may I add) is allowed to sling 4x9M as if its nothing, its just silly why the other one is not.

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ICE doesnt have HMD im (95% sure at least)

Though both the ICE and F3 Late are just under BRed but stuck. F3 Late could get BOL, Phimat and if needed C5s to be move up, but the ICE doesnt have the same options for buffs. So has to wait for decompression

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Ye in fact I might misremember that, if that is so then yet again, 9km ACM vs 19km ACM (as of hornet’s radar) is still a torture when you are playing 13.7-14.0 more or less always.

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Yeah, just compression issue s at the moment

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The Mig-23ML has both better SARHs and better IRs at 11.7.

The ARH is trash and does not bring anything to the table. It is not worth to talk about, especially since the poor engines cannot get the launching platform to an ideal launch for them.

The only valid 13.0s with 4 modern ARH are the Kfir/Harrier (which have worse ARH missiles and cannot carry IR missiles with them) and Viggen Ds.

You’re making up arbitrary rules. You seemingly are purposely ignoring the effectiveness of different ARH missile on purpose to fit your narrative.

But the Aim-54 is nowhere near as effective as the Derby, Aim-120, or PL-12. You can use those within 4km easily. You cannot do that with the Aim-54s. You can BVR with those easily and force kills. You cannot with the Aim-54s.

But you know this.

So to answer the question that we all know the answer to, No it does not have only 2x ARH missiles or is only subsonic. But it does have 6 horrible quality ARH missile with worse seeker, kinematics, and usability. It also does have the only HPRF only radar with worse gates than the Navy Phantoms.