Renard R.38 - Belgium's best prop fighter

True!

Here is a picture of the R.38 in Bordeaux, hardly looks in a condition to fly all the way to Munich to me, but i guess a German soldier did sit in its cockpit at least once

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And about the grenade launcher, this is all speculation on my part but it could maybe be an automatic version of the DBT grenade launcher? This is a stretch, but it’s the only Belgian “grenade launcher” system at the time i can think of, unless it’s supposed to be a foreign device.

It came with explosive or smoke grenades.
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Huh, interesting. I wonder how that’d work in-game.

+1 look at all the neat BeNeLux stuff. Yet no room for next to all of it…

Hm, i don’t know, i don’t think we have this kind of system on planes yet?

The only really useful bit would be the smoke grenades in ground battles, if it does use those grenades

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FYI the fnar.be web page for all Renard’s aircraft is FNAR Fonds National Alfred Renard - Les Avions Renard

Includes all the predecessors and possible variants of the R.38

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I already made suggestions for the other Renard aircraft if you wanna check them out ;)

The HE grenades could be useful for popping open-topped vehicles, I guess.

+1.

I wonder how them grenades are launched from the aircraft. Like is grenade launcher mounted somewhere in the fuselage facing downwards or it is somewhere near pilot?

If it is the former, it might be an interesting way of bonking ground targets (even though them grenades look hella weak to effectively target open-top vehicles) and maybe aircrafts (like Ki-44-II otsu)

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I can only describe it as a box-shaped device dropping or maybe launching grenades from just behind the cockpit. Now that i think about it you could also use it to bonk big bombers…

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IMPORTANT UPDATE!

I know i just edited this suggestion, but as with the R.36, i’ve just come across some flight data for the R.38!

It seems the previous figures were estimations, calculations done prior to the R.38’s first flight; if you look at this Flight magazine article published on August 3 1939, so the day before the first flight, it shows those exact figures (in mph) mentioning it is an estimation:
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These initial estimations have since been taken over and over again by secondary sources, hence the complete lack of any differing figures.

However, since i found actual flight data from R.38 testing (which is a bit hard to read, see in the “Performance details” folder in the suggestion), i have corrected top speed and climb speed in the suggestion to its 100 octane fuel testing standard, which prove to be significant improvements!

Top speed : 545 km/h → 560 km/h
Top climb speed : 17.5 m/s → 20.5 m/s (!)

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Guess it’s comming to Warthunder

https://live.warthunder.com/post/1156531/en/

NovA29 starting to work on it. This the guy who already did the Swiss P16, Marut and for this update the Mb326K

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It has been a while since i’ve been so excited for War Thunder!

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Yeah, I’m very exited for it, it might take some time, but he’s a great modeller!

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I do wonder how long it will take… Shouldn’t be as time-consuming as the MB-326K

Probably longer, since there are plenty of surviving MB-326 to use as a reference but no surviving R.38s

Well… thankfully he uses pictures to model the aircraft and we have those
And it’s a simpler aircraft overall with less systems, moving parts etc

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In his dicord he wrote that he hope he can finisch it fast.

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@Milashny_Koteyka
So in post-war sources, you do see 4x 7.7 mm or 2x 13.2 mm as the two possibilities for armament, and that’s indeed was was planned very early on in the R.37 and R.38 projects, but it very quickly evolved into solely the 4x 13.2 mm configuration for the R.38.

The R.37 on the other hand, as it was sidelined by this point, did not get the “updated” planned configuration, and thus correctly kept the original 4 LMG or 2 HMG configuration in the post-war sources.

The R.38 however, did evolve past this point and had locked in the 4x 13.2 mm armament by late 1939/1940 (also when the actual gun became available), and even with an option for 2x 20/23 mm cannons instead

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