Renard R.38 - Belgium's best prop fighter

Sorry autocorrect is annoying. Is the type of grenade launcher known?

Unfortunately not :(
I’m not expecting it to be modelled if the plane ends up in the game, but thought it’d be cool to point out

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Update!

I overhauled the suggestion, replaced a few pictures and added some new ones, and corrected the armament section!

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+1 !
Great suggestion, the upgraded armament makes it a proper contender while still keeping it balanced!

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+1 wish we got this ngl, Belgium has plenty of cool stuff to add.

Btw can someone fill me in in the differences with the British vehicles in Benelux air and thier counterparts in the UK tree? (I know about the gladiator and it’s incorrect armament but not the others).

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I’m really not familiar with post-war aircraft, not really the subject of this suggestion, but i think the Dutch Hunter and Sea Hawk may have some differences with their British counterparts

R.38 more interesting tho

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True!

Here is a picture of the R.38 in Bordeaux, hardly looks in a condition to fly all the way to Munich to me, but i guess a German soldier did sit in its cockpit at least once

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And about the grenade launcher, this is all speculation on my part but it could maybe be an automatic version of the DBT grenade launcher? This is a stretch, but it’s the only Belgian “grenade launcher” system at the time i can think of, unless it’s supposed to be a foreign device.

It came with explosive or smoke grenades.
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Huh, interesting. I wonder how that’d work in-game.

+1 look at all the neat BeNeLux stuff. Yet no room for next to all of it…

Hm, i don’t know, i don’t think we have this kind of system on planes yet?

The only really useful bit would be the smoke grenades in ground battles, if it does use those grenades

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FYI the fnar.be web page for all Renard’s aircraft is FNAR Fonds National Alfred Renard - Les Avions Renard

Includes all the predecessors and possible variants of the R.38

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I already made suggestions for the other Renard aircraft if you wanna check them out ;)

The HE grenades could be useful for popping open-topped vehicles, I guess.

+1.

I wonder how them grenades are launched from the aircraft. Like is grenade launcher mounted somewhere in the fuselage facing downwards or it is somewhere near pilot?

If it is the former, it might be an interesting way of bonking ground targets (even though them grenades look hella weak to effectively target open-top vehicles) and maybe aircrafts (like Ki-44-II otsu)

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I can only describe it as a box-shaped device dropping or maybe launching grenades from just behind the cockpit. Now that i think about it you could also use it to bonk big bombers…

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IMPORTANT UPDATE!

I know i just edited this suggestion, but as with the R.36, i’ve just come across some flight data for the R.38!

It seems the previous figures were estimations, calculations done prior to the R.38’s first flight; if you look at this Flight magazine article published on August 3 1939, so the day before the first flight, it shows those exact figures (in mph) mentioning it is an estimation:
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These initial estimations have since been taken over and over again by secondary sources, hence the complete lack of any differing figures.

However, since i found actual flight data from R.38 testing (which is a bit hard to read, see in the “Performance details” folder in the suggestion), i have corrected top speed and climb speed in the suggestion to its 100 octane fuel testing standard, which prove to be significant improvements!

Top speed : 545 km/h → 560 km/h
Top climb speed : 17.5 m/s → 20.5 m/s (!)

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