not a game breaking missile? You can’t go cold, can’t notch and forget (it will retrack if you stop going perfectly perpendicular to the radar beam), it still strikes you through terrain clutter because it’s the size of a damn Ford Ranger and gives you no time to defend (of which the only method is to hide behind a tall mountain since the missile will go straight til it uses all of it’s maneuverability to hit you unlike sparrows that wil follow the target’s every move til they either hit the ground on the first correction or simply bleed out of energy mid flight), the situation is worse for the r530f and r530d magic missiles France has, and let’s not talk about Sweden with the aim7e2. Sure, they don’t have anything because they literally had nothing between that and the MICA and AMRAAM but that is no excuse to keep the r27er and et the way it is. Air RB from 10.3 an ahead is about who can kill who the quickest, both in the wall of death and in the furball. That happens to be Russia in all of the situations because not only the r27er is great at long distance coupled with r73s, the r27er laughs at the British SRAAM in close range maneuverabilty. Not to mention how absolute booboo the nato radars are.
Because it probably requires a lot of dynamic processing of signals, and as we know Soviet / Russian microelectronics, leave something to be desired in terms of performance in comparison to western examples.
Have you not played the Fulcrum or Flanker? the ER is mad stupid and is literally the best SARH Missile in the game the only thing that comes close is the French 530D Super. Even aware enemies will still die unless they are having to use the Multipathing weakness to dodge it. The only way you aren’t dying to it is being higher, farther, and able to bleed its speed and energy. Yes the ER is stupidly OP and disgustingly good. If you are struggling to get kills with it skill issue. If you think it isn’t imbued with the most pure form of Russian Bullshit Aerospace Magic then can I have some of that top grade copium you are smoking?
I have literally nailed people rear aspect at ranges in excess of like 6-7km something that the Sparrow can’t do consistently. Or rather really at all. Don’t think exploiting Multipath is not learning how to fight them… it is like the only effective way. You can’t break the lock so you need to bleed the energy which only helps if you know what you are doing and are above it.
@Melancholia_Mari
Have to ping you since you accused all skilled players in WT community of an insult; while defending your precious Russian equipment in the process.
I have played both.
The R-27ER is only good at fragging jets not using fighter doctrine, and that’s it.
R-27ER cannot be OP cause an OP missile has to be universally fragging the playerbase more than all other missiles… it’s not.
R-27ERs only fragging me in ground battles doesn’t make for a great missile.
How me stating the ER is OP for its dumb speed, acceleration, maneuverability (that is on par with IR Missiles) is me defending RU Equipment. If anything the ER needs a nerf.
That is a massive lie. The only poor tactic is attempting to dodge it, while the radar is locked on you. You want to beat it hit the deck and turn once you see the offending aircraft stop locking you.
A Missile can be OP and not have a 100% kill and or hit rate. Like I said before what makes the missile OP is its stats, and how the come together to make the missile as good as it is. OP =/= 100% frag rate. Get that through your skull.
That right there is a skill issue. As well as a massive lie. I severely doubt that claim.
If you have then you wouldn’t think the Sparrow is anywhere near the same level as the ER.
I am accusing you of a skill issue, as quite frankly it is, especially if your deaths in GRB come from a ER if what you claim is true. Also not getting kills in ARB with the ER is massive cope and extreme skill issue.
Any other retorts or are you done being the entire circus.
Huh, interesting edit for someone who says the ER is only good for GRB and that the Pantsir is equal to the ITO 90. Now call me a skeptic but, having to use IRL Russian Disinformation tactics to seem superior is very ironic. Please continue to cope, and have a very unpleasant evening or morning.
You’re here defending the R-27ER and Pantsir, so it was rather obvious the moment you attacked me for me criticizing them.
Calling things OP is defending them.
Calling things trash is attacking them.
If you call The Beast OP, that’s complimenting/defending him.
If you insult him that’s attacking him.
Same applies to inanimate objects.
There’s a reason I die to R-27ERs inconsequentially.
I die to AIM-9Ms the most, R-73s 2nd only because so few Mirage pilots, Magic 2s 3rd, and AAM-3s not at all yet cause I haven’t faced Japan.
IR missiles are the only thing that threaten me in air RB.
Now either you have brain damage or you are trying to gaslight me here but, You are just fundamentally wrong. OP means Over Powered I shouldn’t have to explain lingo like that but again here we are. Over Powered is a synonym for Extremely Good. Trash is a synonym for extremely bad. Calling R-27ERs extremely bad is like actual brain rot. Like the most RU Main Cope. Calling them extremely good isn’t complimenting them it is stating a fact. They are literally the best SARH missile in the game, leagues above other nations and it should be nerfed.
This has nothing to do with the topic at hand and you know it. Knock it off.
No it doesn’t are you daft. Please go back to Third Grade English.
That again is a lie, unless you so infrequently play TTARB that would be the only way you don’t die to ERs as much as you claim. That would also explain your fundamental misunderstanding of TTARB and why the ER is very good.
Finally a half truth, you again lie about not facing Japan as it is common unless you barely play.
That is a skill issue, if you aren’t preflaring then you will die to IR at TTARB. Probably explains your admittance to dying to 9Ms frequently. Which probably means you aren’t very good.
Never once defended the Pantsir, first and foremost it shouldn’t have been even added the TOR and it isn’t attacking you I am criticizing you for being stupid.
Glad you discovered that OP means over-powered, AKA amazing, so amazing that it’s better than all the competition; This is COMPLIMENTING, aka defending the item called OP.
Also I call all SARHs mid to bad cause they’re not anywhere as good as IR missiles.
The fact your post implies NATO fans are “RU Main” is hilarious.
You can see my rank 8 stats in jets and see how much I’ve played air RB; Not dying to SARHs is the easiest thing in the game to do. It’s easier to die to AIM-9Js than it is to any SARH.
Japan is usually on my team when it appears, or the player never gets near me.
People… Do we want realism or do we want balance? I’m sorry but we can’t always have both. IRL air superiority is not fair.
As of right now USA/Western nations have by far the best flight models and CAS. RU/East has some of the best missiles, there’s Pro’s and con’s on both sides.
I personally think this game would be incredibly bland if everything was tuned to balance their counterparts, it would no longer be a simulator, you’d no longer be flying an F15 or Su27, you’d just be flying around stock/default flight models with skins of whatever nation you’re on, that’s no fun.
As of inaccuracies like some missiles or flight models over/underperforming, there’s people relentlessly reporting these things on the bug report page. They’re at least doing something useful, instead of coping about it on some forum thread…
what are you on about
russians have the best cas in the game and the best A2A weapons in the game
and the best anti air in the game
its both unrealistic and unbalanced
I’d argue west have the best CAS capabilities, at least with quantity, also they actually have proper smart guided weapons below 11.3… As of right now I also believe the 9M is better than R73, this is another discussion though.
Well then you’re in luck! Prove you’re not talking out of your ass and provide sources that it’s ‘unrealistic’ into a bug report, Gaijin will look at it :)
I can assure you it’s far more productive than moaning about it on the forums.
r73 is many times better than 9m, r27er has no right to be in the game, in its current inflated stats its a counter to amraam which is yet to be added
you cant even notch this op ass missile because it has iog
I play sim, 9M being actually invisible and having the better IRCCM (in my opinion) is huge. R73 of course has the thrust vectoring which is nice but it’s way too easy to flare. I understand if you prefer the 9M though, “many times better” is an exaggeration though.
You can still notch it… You just can’t go in a perfectly straight line at a constant speed after the notch if it’s close… Just divert a little and you’ll be fine.
