I don’t play J-11 since Alpha Strike patches but how R-27ER is good from before patches?
When I played back then, R-27ER had death zone within 8km if u don’t fly on the deck but, they are still insane?
Well I do have a good understanding of how the 27ER works, and how to defeat it. I’ve defeated and fired off hundreds in sim, including frequent BVR duels in custom battles, it’s not that hard to break the lock of Russian jets and their radars are pretty slow so it takes them a while to reaquire most often. I was mostly talking about the 16v16 environment of RB, where it seems that most engagements happen right after one another at <10km range and “standoff” is pretty much non-existent, and having markers over enemies so you can instantly pinpoint them without having them on radar. Furballs are way more frequent in RB. You can still multi path of course though
Yeah, most of my kills come from the R-27ER, I frequently shoot them from rear and side aspect when people are close to the ground and they assume it’s a IR missile and don’t dive low enough… At those ranges, like 5km (side, or rear aspect), it’s very hard to notch that missile. No other missiles get even close to its performance
When I was flying J-11, most of my deaths were caused by enemy team R-27ERs and ETs from space, AIM-9Ms that was launched from JAS39.
TBH, I don’t think R-27ERs should gets removed from Su-27 and J-11 because that’s how it makes it 12.7BR rn but, MiG-29A should be moved to 12.3BR instead of getting R-73 and remove R-27ER.
It is just ridiculous that R-27ER carriers face against regular Phantoms and MiG-21s which doesn’t have PD radars.
No I wasn’t trying to argue, I was just chiming in since you said you mostly play sim
I find it to be infuriating to deal with on levels that no other missile matches because its nearly undodgeable at the shotgun tier furball ranges
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cope more, if you cant beat them join them
nah youre just fighting enemies whos only defense is hugging the ground or going cold because they arent willing to learn to fight them
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Any other arguments ?
The effect is likely too strong compared to IRL, at least for late SARH and let’s not even mention the ARH they tested in march.
What can i say
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I might have to try out some dogfights against it
I’m unable to tell if it’s just busted or I somehow never bumped into a competent 1v1 player in my 120 or so matches.
Wanna mess around with it and find out?
What are you up to in 2 hours?
More work, I expect to be back at about 2100-2300 GMT. I get back home around there, then my plan is to go shopping quickly and be home
If you wanna PM we can chat on discord til then
I do have every platform except mirages. Flankers are the best in my experience and team top performers are mostly flankers and mig29’s from what I’ve seen lately.
I also do quite decently in gripen/f-16c but with a very passive gameplay where I try to climb and get unspotted to launch aim9m’s from above, because their radars and RWR allow for good situation awareness. Aim9m for me is unreliable against aware people, but good for sneaky orbital strikes because they ignore the occasional flare or missile launch at distance.
But for just pure aggressive meta gameplay, I would pick a flanker every time, which works better to snowball a win. Not everyone is skimming the ground all the time as people say they do, R-27ER’s are still my primary weapon to get kills.
Just don’t expect to get stuck in a furball with a flanker and do well, instead do hit-and-run tactics, a flanker is still a good dogfighter but only when left alone because you’ll be doing stall maneuvers and spamming R-73s
Got the fulcrum recently, turns out the R-27ERs are great and the FM, but the radar isnt. Overall I like the airframe than not but eh, the avionics are so bad. Cannons deal decent damage but the ammo pool is a bit limited.
The missile is very strong but its made up(or down) with a rather inferior radar+RWR complex I guess.
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there would be R-27 + R-77 vs aim-120a mostlikely same time period
R-27EA is superior to R-77, so no it shouldn’t be added.
@Melancholia_Mari
They are not OP, this game doesn’t nerf things because they’re OP as this focuses on realism, and killing unaware targets is something I can do with AIM-7 as well.
@NoBottersInARB
R-73s would make Mig-29s 12.7, not 12.3, which the Mig-29s are already 12.7. So no needed.
No you don’t. Everyone would go back to arcade battles and never play that mode.
That system just makes Soviets and Germans to be OP.
Edit: Russians upset that I disagree.
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this be my problem.
a lot of aircraft cannot do that. now as far as I’m aware its on gaijin’s wishlist to add separate dispense binds but it can’t come soon enough.
If the R27 is superior over the R77, why is not the Su57 designed to equip any variant whatsoever. even the EA?
Back to the topic. I believe if GJ is to keep the performance of the ER. They should remove it from the lesser mig29s and give them the R73s like they intended to in the dev server for the 9.13.
That is far more realistic and would even out the lower BRs imo.
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Yeah, I completely agree here. The MiG-29 facing off against BR 11s with nothing to challenge it’s dominance? It’s honestly sorta disgusting to be in a match with an F-4 and an ER slaps you.
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