Remove KH38

Thats certainly one interpretation. It’s not a good interpretation, but it’s certainly a take.

The more realistic explanation is that CAS balance frustrates a large portion of the playerbase, Topics don’t stay alive for years and keep reoccuring unless there’s an actual problem.

Ironically, your dismissal of any actual concerns is the exact same thing you accuse me of - “you just want the game to be your way and no different.”

You have proof of that ?

No, i am willing to find a middle ground, unlike you.

Sure, I’ll just go poll the entire playerbase. Be right back.

In the meantime, I’ll stick with what we do have, in-game chat, the forums, reddit posts and the stats from statshark, all of which paint a grim picture.

No, i am willing to find a middle ground, unlike you.

I didn’t call for removal of CAS. I called for removal of the FnF weapons. Seems like a middle ground to me. While they’re at it, they can either remove the fuse timers for bombs to force planes to bomb from higher up therefore reducing their accuracy or reduce exceedingly generous g limits that planes have in GRB (I think they’re about 50% higher than they should be), once again forcing earlier pull ups and therefore reducing accuracy.

There, a middle ground without removing planes (which I personally would love, but gaijin have made it clear thats never going to happen sadly)

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In other words, you have not, thank you for confirming.

It wouldn’t be and stop pretending you are interested in a middle ground, you are not:

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Yeah, it’s annocdotal, but its still evidence despite your attempts to dismiss it (this seems to be a theme with you)

It wouldn’t be and stop pretending you are interested in a middle ground, you are not:

I already said I despise CAS. This is not a secret. I have suggested things which could be done to alleviate the opressive state it has in game. This is not the gotcha you think it is.

Try again.

Asking places where a very small fracture of the player base even interacts is not evidence. Failing to understand this seems to be a theme with you.

You got called out and now try to downplay it, but it’s allright, everybody already saw what you really think.

Its a forum, dont think anyone really cares and in any case kh38s wont get removed, the whole forum is kinda pointless. Many other forums have been shut down. But goodluck if this even gets the attentions to what the others got

its all we have at the current time, so it will have to do. You don’t very many “I love getting bombed! Add more planes!” converations now do you?

You got called out and now try to downplay it, but it’s allright, everybody already saw what you really think.

Reading comprehension issues? There is no attempt to downplay anything. I stand by my words that CAS is utterly opressive and cancerous in game. You also missed the vital context that the comment was made in a thread just after the new SPAA was introduced and CAS mains were crying about not being able to fly straight and level and get 4-5 kills.

Unlike you however, I am attempting to find a middle ground where everyone can have fun.

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Keep telling that yourself if it makes you feel better.

still havent heard from you regarding the Su-25BM cost and accessibility being comparable to A-7 or A-10

Truth bomb!

Pointless points being made when nothing is happening or will ever change, and if people are getting killed in their tanks by a paper missile so be it. Its a game lol

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yes one is going in an easily predictable trajectory at abysmal speed, the other may be supersonic or transonic and can maneuver.

sure not anymore effective than the more involved then your alternative, and yeah ayit is OP as fuck thats another issue,

wouldnt even work like maverics or gbu52.

incoherent, you tried to sound profound.

what does this even mean? it is a jet it flew in a predictable vector you cannot just cancel your vector like in heli. like what are you even trying to say dude?

furthermore, before i start anything have you ever flew Su-17/22M3 before?

so where is it? even it wont work it wont hurt to give Su-17M3 a spin with it now do we?

im talking about munitions, agm65s are pitifully slow and easy to intercept and shot by equally slow aircraft, su17 and su25k are both faster and have direct control over their weapons(which has both downsides and upsides) and yeah targetting sucks on these aircraft, thats why you got third person, sure it doesnt allow you to fire from as far away as (as an extreme example ill use a10) a 10.7 a10a(its .7 higher than su25k i would hope it has some advantages over it) but hugging the ground like you should negates whatever radar anti air you wuld encounter at those brs much the same. you have cas at those brs and its good one, soviets and russia never had a agm65 equivalent, and kab500kr would be outright fictional for the 9.7 su17m2, but for the su22m3 and the domestic su17m3 i have no idea

like from this: https://web.archive.org/web/20180124083154/http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/military/su22m3/arms/ old archived site it shows the capability for the M4 variant but not the m3, if players find that capability to be real than i dont see why not

oh i didnt know that if agm65 got intercept your jet will also destroyed. silly me i should have known that if agm65 intercepted the jet that fires them can no longer land reload and try again compared to su-17 which they can just always call out new jet whenever their plane got intercepted

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kh38 is really a terrible missile because pressing the spacebar continuously makes my thumb tired.

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