That’s not a game engine limitation afaik, there’s literally a 7 vehicles folder somewhere in the German tree, with the Italian planes that were removed when Italy was added. None of this is game limitations, they reshuffled to improve the tree structure and make the grind more consistent and structured.
And anyway I’m not advocating for putting ten billion mirage variants in the tree, I’m advocating for not condemning copypaste premiums, because sure they’re boring, but would you rather a F-14D move?
There are 3 vehicles suggested as premiums in the original post, and all 3 are cool and unique. Early Rafale? Beautiful, making it premium would be criminal. Mirage 2000-5B? Very cool. Mirage F1EM VI? Man this thing is so peak, why would you want it locked behind paywall???
You are completely missing my point.
You’re missing mine. I was replying at a post that suggested Rafale M LF.1, Mirage 2000-5B and Mirage F1EM VI as premiums. What are you thinking? These belong in the tree, they’re not valid premiums at all! This would be a F-14D all over again for me
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war thunder players will never be satisfied whatever gaijin do,
they put a copy paste top tier premium they hate it ( and it is the best option)
they put a unique top tier premium they hate it and say they blocking it behind a paywall
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no-one would complain if they added the F-14D in the TT and a clone variant with a camo as a premium the mistake was making it an exclusive premium
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I swear it’s crazy, and look at what the OP suggested as premiums! The first Rafale variant and the pinnacle of Mirage F1… If any of those comes as a premium I’ll completely lose my mind
Exactly, this is straight up disrespect to the community, and on top of that they made the F-14D dirty by making it this boring copyslop instead of the peak it should be. And now the French playerbase is asking for the same treatment? Seriously I’m starting to think a large part of the community deserves what’s Gaijin’s doing to them
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Yeah but must I remind you… F14D is actually a US domestic plane. An F16 in a French tree has nothing of domestic.
The first of Rafale Variant or Pinacle of Mirage F1 still hold no competition to a M2K5F in reference. And compared to you who seems to see no problem with infinite grind some people prefer seeing upgraded variants as event planes or premiums rather than another 300-400k grind wall.
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yea but Belgium ( and Netherlands ) that is a subtree used them
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That we never wanted in the first place. Subtrees are the death of this game anyway they are the kingdom of copy paste that ruin identity of a nation just to please some national marginal communities.
Because it stands since the intro of the subtree but BeNeLux is just a sloppy solution to the fact Gaijin didn’t want to fix Leclerc armor and systems as well as giving newer variants and more modern shells.
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Who cares? Maybe unlike you, I enjoy “mid” planes and am glad that they’re in the game. I don’t chase the meta
The early Rafales would fit perfectly between the Mirage 4000 and the Rafale M F3-R, and that wouldn’t add so much grind to be honest. The Mirage F1EM VI would be perfect in 3rd line under the F1CT, where it would end the line and be fully optional. And the Mirage 2000-5B would obviously be foldered on the 5F. Generally speaking most additions could be foldered with something else. You’re literally making up a problem here.
And when you say “muhuh but the grind” sorry but did you ever think of people who want to play cool and unique planes without paying 80 bucks?
Just to point something out, unlike the other planes the F1EM is an export plane that doesn’t belong in the main tree.
That one is more debatable and an unpopular opinion of mine, but I’d put it in the tech tree honestly
Well, I understand the inclination of wanting all the previous mentioned aircraft to be in the tech tree, but for the health of the tech tree, it would be better to sacrifice one good vehicle to bring in new players, and reduce the winrate of french vehicles.
I mean, I guess that’s true. Actually the only valid point so far, and I hate that it’s true. I’m just sad because these are so cool…
But even then a Mirage 2000C would be the most viable option… The LF.1 has no gun, the 2000-5B has no gun, and the F1EM would be one of these weird cases of overtiered airframes without undertiered weapons, so not very viable for premium.
And a Mirage 2000C would only be 12.3, Gaijin wants a 13.x so an F-16AM is the best solution for that
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you know what, as a controversial and blasphemous as it is to say.
if getting a copypaste gold F-16AM now, means less likelihood of a interesting or unique french bird (or variant thereof) gettting paywalled, evented or green’d, in the future…
…i’ll take it.
it’s still baffling that france would now have more F16s than the US tree, but i’d rather an F16 get paywalled than something i’d love to research.
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Finally someone gets it
Anyway I don’t think France has any 13.x as viable to offer as a premium
I agree. I’d rather have copy paste premiums than unique stuff locked behind a pay wall. Of course a copy paste of a French aircraft here would have been ideal, but I’m not upset about this at all.
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Yeah, all the people supporting unique vehicles as premiums are the very reason Gaijin dared to make the F-14D a premium. Even all the ones whining, half of them will buy the F-14D pack
between upgraded Mirages and downgraded Rafales, it has a few to chose from…
…but again, i’d rather reserach those
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