how about…
Ka-52M next patch instead!
i can’t even be asked to get the Arena… i’ll get around to it when T-14 is added (and is somehow worse)
genuine coalmine of a tech tree…
meanwhile, in the good tech tree
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Lowkey would be ahh, I have aced crew rn on ka-52. Atleast add Hermes or smth unique to it (they said they would)
Ka-52M will be another LMUR spewer
LMUR sucks right now, atleast give us something unique for it
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What server is this? I want some bot lobbies like that too.
EU. I play CIS and EU
Oh no, that’s 450+ms for me…
Doesnt suck enough, 8x lmur doesnt make sense
And? Who came first does not matter, who came last does, and yes I have seniority on you, and now you don’t seem to care about that measure.
Once again, get better material, all I see is the cope of another person who thinks stat shaming has any bearing on anyone in today’s WT.
I’m just going to re-quote this since you seem to have issues with remembering what I’ve wrote.
I am already aware that the grammatical capabilities those here are lacking but I have no clue what you are trying to say here.
Ah yes, defending those being harassed by other individuals who are not able to defend themselves, such “weak and pathetic behavior”.
Woe, burden of proof be upon ye.
Your wall stowage is empty.
I eagerly await such.
I laugh at people trying to do so as my gen 2 thermals don’t care that you are burning your ESS, nor my TGP.
It is once again not a utility feature, both yourself and I have already quantified it as separate benefit.
Given it has a extended flight time to be used, I would love to know of some instances where it actually was more beneficial than your dischargers beyond just randomly spamming it while driving or on a cap.
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Ah yes the budget CITV strat, was especially useful back when you could glitch thermals onto them. In both cases that is a incredibly niche usage and not what makes a commander .50 worthwhile, which is the fact that it can traverse to a greater degree than a coax.
They both have .50s which are not comparable as one is a coax and one is not.
And let me guess, you are basing the effectiveness of the T-90M’s commander’s mount off of the fact that it can be disabled if your commander dies? Totally omitting that it has superior traversal rates and range.
As can 3OF26, both rounds became far more similar after the HE nerfs, there are a select few shots, like onto the front idler of the Leopard 2 at 35 degrees which the M339 can do but 3OF cant, yet if you move about 2 feet to the right of the idler 3OF can then penetrate. Both are far better fully side on with most vehicles bar the fact that 3OF can directly overpressure a number of vehicles head on which M339 cannot anymore, eg the M1’s driver hatch / front pike.
Ah yes, “not meta”, meta enough that every single player who reps their own nation has been pining for spall liners and external fuel tanks to be added to their nation’s vehicles since it’s introduction, a feature so powerful that it relit the fire of Russian Bias and has been a driving factor of that concept since it arrived.
“Not Meta”
- ineffective hull armor against all threats
- no lateral or aft protection
- no spall liners
- vulnerable to HE at all aspects
- average gun laying abilites
- can disable the turret and elevation drives on nearly any penetrating hit from any angle
- can catch fire requiring FPE on nearly any penetrating hit from any angle
- has spall generation panels behind only external fuel tanks, guaranteeing heavy spall on a front hull pentration
- has no form of HE (No the HEP on the 105mm is not viable)
- has average turbodart performance
I can keep going on, but it is truly no wonder why the M1 series is seldom picked in competitive play given how meta is supposedly is.
Most interesting as I would think a lot of people would state that the VT4A1 is fine but held back by the fact that a majority of the other options in the Chinese tree are 12.3 and rather bad given most have questionable armor setups, with the VT4A1 being the only vehicle in the tree’s range that sports a APS and actual usable spall liners.
I did still request 3 12.7s, although I do find your statement that the T-72B3A is the worst 12.3 quite funny if such is what you are insinuating, when the Arietes, base Merkava 4s the 3 other Chinese 12.3 MBTs exist.
Oh so have we moved away from the BVM vs IPM1 reload rate situation to now comparing the T-90M’s reload rate to other vehicles? What a shame that the goalposts started moving this early.
Wonderful I still have my user missions available to refute such, also quite funny you chose 60km/h to suit your argument when the top speed value is the opposite situation.
Coming from someone who thinks 1 degree of gun depression makes all the difference in the world I highly doubt that statement.
From my time Wm1ing the OBJ 292 it allows me to turn my brain off its so effective.
Excuse me sir this is War Thunder, 99% of the playerbase cannot aim.
Last I checked Russian is not a race, you are 0 for 3 pal.
Not a demonym my guy.
Once again, yawn, get better material.
I am already well aware that a majority of what I’m typing is going far above your head but this is just sad at this point, especially if you are now trying to hold the angle that being a cap rusher to CAS spam is somehow better.
- beats around the bush and grandstands instead of answering the question.
You should be a politician, you would be fantastic.
They aren’t in the context of a actual total comparison nor does doing so make a actual viablee comparison.
Nice strawman number, what is it like 8 now, given the 4M is also 12.7, of course the original comparison was the IPM1 which you claimed should be rank 8 sooooo.
That is exceptionally rich coming from you given you are the one failing to understand a majority of what I’ve written to this point.
Personal attack number 2 and still cannot fathom what I wrote.
I implore you to actually read any of what I’ve written, but given the fact you slapped on a random image of a Pokémon you may also lack a command of the English language as well.
Wonderful you admit that I did not use a personal attack against you unlike yourself against I given your circular reasoning here.
My condolences for not sticking to the same grammatical flow within my comments, you may associate both terms to be equal if that helps.
I wish for you to become a bit more worldly friend, and educate yourself on what races exist in the world.
Wonderful, thank you for proving my hypothesis.
Quite the claim you make, I hope you see the irony in it.
Given I’ve not moved the goalposts of the original argument multiple times unlike yourself and others, sure my guy I’ll drink to that.
With the Apaches going down the Ka-52 at 12.0 is just garbage, it was good against the ADATS and ITO but now where it fights 12.7 practically every match it just makes it unplayable.
You can do absolutely nothing against an Iris-t or AIM-9X, and the vikhr now a days i just not good, the hellfire can at least be fired without lasing behind cover.
Thats the point? The loader side should be empty so you can bait/sidescrape with it.
Average player will push a corner where they see smoke, little do they know its ESS and you are looking right at them. I’ll provide clips if you want.
Its an extension of a utility feature. ESS is nigh useless if you dont have thermals to look through it, just as its hampered by a lack of reverse to go into it. I get your point though.
For one, when you run out of smokes, or tossing it above an object to blind an enemy behind it. Its quite funny I can’t lie.
With how fast turrets traverse at top tier, the ability to track people behind cover is more benefitial.
If you factor in losing your loader in Mk.4, I can pull this for the .50 too.
3OF26 is better at overpressuring roofs where M339 doesnt fuse, and M339 is better for corners. We can agree on them being equal?
Except the average player doesnt know the meta.
The hull armor is not that bad lmao. Post rework M1A1/Trophy/v3 eat rounds to the LFP with only 1-2 crew and mobility lost, and you can fire right back. Its also thick enough to bait on corners.
Dunno what you mean by the second point, but it has effective side composite that protects against autocannons MUCH better than a Leo 2 for comparison.
Lack of spall liners is w/e, and the HE vulnerability is also w/e, as you rarely get overpressured.
The gun handling is top of the line at every BR, this is a strength, not a negative.
While you may lose gun traverse to most penetrating hits, this usually isnt a onetap, and if you have teammates, they can cover you while you repair. As opposed to many other tanks which just outright die.
I have never had a problem with FPE.
The bulkheads prevent fuel explosions, fires, and add CE protection, and while they do generate spall, its not very different to any other LFP weakspot without fuel tanks.
105 Abrams lack HE, but the 120 Abrams have a plethora of other rounds to make up for it.
Dont know what turbodart means, but Abrams has exceptional firepower at every BR, except 10.7, where the firepower is just aight.
Completely false. Abrams is a top pick in tourneys, squibs, and private TSS.
It is poor in every category, its just bad.
I explained why I didnt include a 3rd 12.7, in my mind I was thinking of vehicles at 12.3 too.
As for the other 12.3s, the Merkava Mk.4, Ariete AMV, WZ1001/99A, and VT4 are just outright better than 90M. Ariete/Mk.4 are just better due to their NATO qualities, and the CN tanks are basically just T-72s with worse armor but MUCH better reverse, which is a net positive tradeoff to B3A.
Conversation has shifted plenty. Regardless, BVM has worse firepower than IPM1 by a good margin :)
This is a controlled environment. Cargo port highway, maxxed commander/driver with expert crew, as well as a spaded tank. Go ahead and do this for me, and send your results. Mk.4 has a higher top speed, of course it takes longer to reach it, lmao.
Youd be surprised what 1 degree can do.
42% WR 1.18 K/D. Extremely effective. So effective youre below the global average for the damn thing.
With 12k games at top tier, ill say that no matter what tank you’re in, armor will not save you 95% of the time, unless you are hull down and swing your turret. Top tier makes it much easier to aim at weakspots due to higher velocity/LRF/bigger weakspots/etc.
Dunno what turbodart is.
As for Abrams’ pros:
Turret
Reload
Ammo selection depending on variant
Ammo count
Mobility
Reverse
Gun handling
Gun depression/elevation
.50
Hull “snappiness”/responsivity
ESS
Side composite coverage
While the frontal hull isnt amazing, its better than most NATO ones. Only the 2A7/122 have better hull armor than Abrams in terms of NATO tanks. (general statement)
would SEP V3 not have the better hull armour?
11.7 will still face 12.7 as more players will try going back to the Ah-64.
Vikhr is miles better than the Hellfire it is faster has more penetration can be used to kill helicopters and jets.
You just shoot the turret ring or the lower plate.
So easy to kill.
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Hmm. They are close, but since there is 1 v3 and it’s a general statement for all Abrams, I will not overturn that for now.
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No it is matter. I would not care about account age if other guy didn’t start his “I play since…” crap. Just like I would not show your stats if you did not talk big mouth who and how should learn to play. You are not the one to say this
So my stat shaming is fully justified. It’s just you missing context all again
Once again, learn to count and not to accuse someone of cherrypicking your worse stats when it’s actually better ones. Whole pointless dilemma just because you cannot comprehend simple numbers
I just say once again: context and intention exist. Your intention was to mock some players and therefore with context word was clearly used as insult. Try wiggle your tail as you want. People actually can count numbers and understand message intention
It’s just so insane
Literally other dude start talking first and I just replied with same coin he used - harassment.
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