Rejected Prototype, but with a legacy. Object 140

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Object 140

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Today I would like to suggest a stepping stone between the T-54 and the T-55 that we haven’t had in the game.

History

In the 1950s to pursue a further development of the T-54 series tank, two companies were ordered for the next tank design. Those two companies were the Nizhny Tagil and Kharkiv. Leonid N. Kartsev was in charge of the Object 140 at Nizhny Tagil and Morozov was in charge of the Object 430 at Kharkiv, which would later develop as the T-64. The contest was won by no one as the T-54 still performed better than both contestants, but many of the designs from the Object 140 were repurposed for tank designs later on. Today we will focus on the rejected Object 140. Leonid N. Kartsev was the leader of the OKB-520 design bureau in Nizhny Tagil. He was already known for its success with the T-54 (Object 137), the team was working on T-54M (Object 139), however the project was halted due to the new order made for the Object 140. Total of two prototypes were made to compete against the Object 430. However, having a new design of road wheels, transmission, and the engine made its disadvantages be revealed resulting in the Object 140 project to be terminated.

Design

The Object 140 offered a shorter, wider, and a lower tank than the T-54. (6.31x3.3x2.33 m [Object 140] vs. 6.45x3.27x2.4 m[T-54]). But the overall design was still kept the same as the T-54.(low height and a round turret). It had 6 aluminum road wheels compared to the 5 of the T-54. It also featured a rubbered road wheel. The Object 140 also offered a new design of storing ammo in the front fuel tank, which made it possible to carry increased amounts but also protect its rounds from detonating (at least the ones stored inside) . The engine for the Object 140 was also placed at an 53° angle to reduce the height of the overall tank. The clearance from having the engine deck at a slope downward towards the aft made the Object 140 have better gun depression around the back of the tank. Object 140 also offered a better set of suspensions giving the tank more buffereing on the move. It also had a TVN-2 Night Vision device to help aid during night operations.

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you can see the engine is tilted on a 53° angle

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Obj.140 with 6 road wheels

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T-54 with 5 road wheels

Armour

The Object 140 had a curved side hull design. The lower half of the side hull offered 80mm of protection while the top half of the side hull offered 57mm of protection. The front hull offered the 100mm on both upper and lower frontal plate. The engine deck had 30mm of protection. The front turret had 240mm, side turret with 183mm and back with 65mm of protection.

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Blue print design of the Object 140

Armament

The Object 140 used a 100mm D-54TS rifled gun. It was a new rifled gun that was introduced in the mid 50s, and the design was immediately changed to incorporate this gun instead of the originally intended D-10T gun. The installation of the new gun gave the Object 140 a Molniya two-plane stabilizer. It was also planned to have a shell ejection, but it was never put into place on the prototype. It also had co-axel 7.62 SGMT and a top mounted 14.5 KPVT.

Mobility

The Object 140 was originally planned to have an upgraded version of the V-2 diesel engine. However the creator, Ivan Trashutin refused to modify his design to accommodate for the required 580 hp from the government. So the team decided to ask a different V-series designer, Evgeny Artiemejev. Although he mainly made engines for farming and domestic application, he accepted the offer and made an engine with 580 hp. The Engine made as a result was the TD-12 (8D12U-1). It offered 6 gears forward and 1 gear backwards. 55km/h top speed and 30km/h on rough terrain. Operational range was 450 km.

Specs

Length: 6.31m

Width: 3.3m

Height: 2.33m

Weight: 36t

Crew: 4

Main armament: 100mm D-54TS rifled gun

Secondary armament: 1 x 14.5mm KPVT, 2 x 7.62mm SGMT

Engine: TD-12 (8D12U-1) 580hp diesel engine. 2100 RPM

Top speed: 55km/h

Night vision: Yes

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Legacy

Although the Object 140 only had two prototypes made, some of its design has been incorporated into other tank designs in the future. The ammo storage inside the forward fuel tank has been used by the T-55, which helped its ammo count to be increased to 45 pieces.

The aluminum road wheel although were frowned upon in the beginning, it later has been used by the T-72

The 100mm D-54TS gun later became the basis for the 115mm smooth bore gun used by the T-62.

The turret design also became the basis for the T-62s turret design.

Place in War Thunder

It became the basis for the T-55 later on, so I would imagine it to be on par or lower with the BR of the T-55. Somewhere around 8.0. maybe could be an event reward or battle pass due to it being a proto-type. But that’s not something we can decide. I would just love to see this vehicle in the game eventually

Sources

Spoiler

Obiekt 140 - Wikipedia
Объект 140 — Википедия
Experienced medium tank "Object 140"
T-62 - Wikipedia
T-54/T-55 - Wikipedia
Tank Archives: Object 140: A Promising Loser
T-64 - Wikipedia
Catainium's Tanks: Object 140 Medium Tank

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there’s literally no place for it in game. And i’m of the ones that think the 135 already shouldn’t be in the game (even tho i like it better than the t62). Sidegrades to already existing vehicles on nations that definitely do not need more vehicles are to be avoided (the obj435 is already too much in my opinion). Maybe as an event or premium, but that’s already stretching it. To me it’s a waste of resources for the game.

+1 Would be a great addition to the game. Would make for either a good squadron vehicle or a bridge between the T-55 and T-62.

+1 Agree!!!

Vehicles like this would make great premiums/reward/BP tanks.

Hope we see it soon!

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I really hope no, at least for tech tree. I strongly dislike the current trend of adding prototype vehicles instead of equivalent mass-produced ones. If there’s a desire for a vehicle between the T-54 '51 and T-55A, then that vehicle should be the T-54A, T-54B, or even T-55. Not some failed prototype.

A +1 from me! It would be super cool to see!

Yes wish to see all cool Protoypes please but hopefully less in the actual tech tree and kept as special premiums or event vehicles as ORIGINALLY PROMISED

You wanted it, you got it.

It’s a premium for the next update (pre-order soon™).
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1g9frqh/new_preorder/

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already bought :D

damn

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I would prefer a TT tank, but it will be a pack premium.

Good job with this suggestion, and, glad to see it Ingame !

+1 Cased closed!

congrats on getting your suggestion into the game!

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She’s here

As the Object 140 was implemented as part of update 2.41.0.11 Firebirds,

Moved to Implemented Suggestions. o7