Regarding the Hull Armor of the M1A2 SEP V3

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But it’s just not better?

Always having flexibility at no cost of time and your own mobility beats having “more” flexibility at the cost of time and your mobility.

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Only way Type 10 is faster is in a straight line, doesn’t seem much like “overall” to me. take 1 turn? Abrams is ahead, have to quickly engage someone hulldown? Abrams wins, have to shoot at someone above you? Abrams wins.

Abrams is better than Type 10 in every important metric as the Type 10 gives up everything just to reload 1s faster while offering no other practical advantages.

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So I have had an error on my game for the last like… 4 years where I cant add or blacklist anyone.

I get wrong_json error. I’ve done fresh installs, changed drives… nada.

you must be smoking something I love my abrams but tkx and type 10 are far better in sniping and mobility compared to the abrams. You might run squads, you might run W and get kills but basics of the average gamer will show TKX and type 10 in veteran hands will dominate abrams.

At the end of the day Abrams dominates no question about it, but TKX and Type 10 will dominate more from experienced players.

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Also they are better at receiving huge explosive objects because they have no aps.

As long as cas exists - no. Single missile can end that domination.

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odd, considering I don’t see a lot of Type 10’s in pro matches where they’d surely be getting used if they were that good.

unfortunately I think you are just feeling a placebo effect, as the Type 10’s are really just not that good (I won’t even humor saying better than Abrams) in either of those roles.

You’re comparing the wrongs things.

As a Solo queue player you’re more likely to win play Japan top tier than you are US. The simple fact is more experienced playets play minor nations which is why Japan has a higher win streak along with Italy.

You’re thinking war thunder pro league I’m think casual gamer. Playing USA is pulling teeth when playing Japan, the tanks simply are good and will get you the win when you are not teamed with Germany and tend to get other experienced players on your team vs lvl 100’s who still done know positioning and situational awareness.

I would say placebo is calling a tank your wife… I understand the bias for sepv3 and the winrate you get from it but every nation has their day. Merkavas offer better tech compared to Japan. Italy still has better players in my opinion and overall as a solo player you pray you don’t get german teammates. Japan having the SU and KH38s it is simply a win once i get bored and call in CAS.

I know its hard to look past abrams but there are other tanks that simply perform better with different capabilities.

The abrams should not have aced 5 sec reload because it takes away the benefits from autloaders in other trees but overall gajin does have fan service for US even if people don’t believe it.

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Good CAS of 1-2 pilots can literally change the entire game. I’ve learned if you don’t have it on your team you are simply cooked as I’ve seen players with God tier stats troll an entire team with their solo queue prowess.

Not right now. I recently played both US and JP top tier, and playing JP without having a US squadmate made it almost impossible to win games.
US players just spawn endlessly while your teammates leave after 1-2 deaths. Having US on your team at top tier is undeniably better than not, due to their high WR right now.

The individual tanks, light tanks, SPAA, are much better in the US. The only arguably better aspect of JP is the CAS. Both nations have the 64E, but the F-15E and MKM are close contenders.

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This is a terrible metric to make a comparison on, not only because it varies from update to update (right now US teams are absolutely crushing top tier, while maybe 2 years ago they were cattle) but it also overinflates the performance of minor nations

This is why the Leclerc’s are 12.7 and the M1A1 is 11.7, despite the M1A1 being a better tank.

Player skill being factored into an objective statistic argument will not get either of us far, across relevant metric’s the Abram’s is a superior tank, even if the Type 10 has better players, they cannot change what is simply hard fact.

I like the tank, sure I have a bias for it, but this bias is not effecting what I am saying, it’s objective fact whether you choose to deny it or not

And the Abrams offers to do basically a blend of everything while also somehow ending up as the best at almost everything.

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Correct, the reason for you not figuring out the fact volumetric hull was added to M1A1 and all new M1s is still unclear.

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I’ve been playing all week and what I’ve seen as long as you don’t have Germany on your team playing Japan you’re more than likely going to win. If I get Russia or USA without Germany it’s more likely going to be a win but experiences does vary.

light tanks yes, SPAA yes, I don’t even bring spaa anymore for Japan cause it’s useless. However the F15E is not close to being a contender to the MKM at most the FA-18 but the thermals on the AGM 84H compared to KH38s along with speed make it very subpar to the best CAS in game. It’s not even the aircraft but the simple use and kill guarantee of the KH38s that make it the best GRB CAS to bring at top tier and it carries 6 of them.

Lads if we wanna change anything on the v3 find a pick of the sepv2 weight plac card

Since you keep using your WR with SEPv3 as proof and main argument to claim that it’s so outstanding that it doesn’t deserve its overdue realistic fixes… I supposse my 71% WR (and increasing every match) with my STOCK T-90M Arena means that it’s as good as SEPv3, OP, even?

Going by your logic where WRs mean so much, I mean :P

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If you use winrate alone you would have a point, but how much impact does your T-90M arena really have on those games with a 1.3 K/D (or K/S since they are the same in this case).

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Probably not much, just like SEPv3’s, as I have the exact same K/D with both anyway, lol. I wonder what that means to those who value stats so much.

Anyway, Win Rates are defined by WAY too many factors.

It’s not as simple as: “good tank = high WR, bad tank = low WR”, as many examples, such as CR2s and Arietes having higher WRs than Leopard 2A6/7s/122s when they were the same BR, have proven across all these years.

In any case, the real point here is that FAITHFUL depictions of vehicles should be independent from PLAYER statistics like WRs or K/Ds.

No one thought of making T-80BVM’s armor be 400mm KE when it had a 75% WR for months. Why is it suddenly a fair argument for SEPv3 when the difference would be WAY smaller? (490mm KE vs current 430mm KE).

And for the record, I do think the Abrams tanks are generally better than their Russian counterparts, which is why I think they should be a higher WR; NOT be artificially nerfed to make their upgrades non-existent and pointless.

EDIT: by the way, my WR with T-90M is now plummetting because the last matches have had 6 and 8 one-death leavers with 0 actions at all respectively, so… yay, yet more WRs changing for factors completely separate from actual vehicle capabilities. As to why I didn’t do better there… it’ kinda hard to do well in a match where the enemy outnumbers you by twice as many players.

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It’s a game, balance should always take priority over a certain extend.

Because to absolutely no sane person’s suprise, the BR system doesn’t work as a balancing mechanic for top tier. Unless they make that accurately fixed SEPv3 a full 1.0 higher than the T-90M, Ariete, Chally 2s, Merkava Mk.4s.

Fixing the SEPv3 would only make it far more overpowered and simply bumping it up 0.3 would do absolutely nothing.

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A fixed SEPv3 would have about 480mm KE instead of 430… going by the solid 1990s values, that is.

How on Earth do you expect such change to make THAT much of a difference? xD

It would only make it be able to withstand shells it barely even faces anymore (DM33, 3BM42…), and, AT BEST, some of the weaker shells in Top Tier from far ranges while angled in the fuel tank areas.

It’s not like I’m asking for it to have an armor even remotely similar to Strv 122s and Leopard 2A7s, which somehow are allowed to have 670-750 mm KE hulls while SEPv3 would be “OP” for having 560mm KE… just for the 480mm KE that were achieved in the 1990s.

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Magic ERA, while NATO NERA and hulls are plastic xd

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It’s ballance. RuSSian ballance. As always in game made in Hungary.