This. Typically the harder a metal is the less ductile it is. It is also more likely to shatter or deflect at oblique angles.
I was with Gaijin when they said that SepV2 didn’t have DU. The wording was really conflicting in the documents. But when i read about V3, it was clear as day that it did have DU. It clearly mentioned “Heavy Armor System”. I thought that would be irrefutable proof, but here we are.
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pretty sure he’s talking about the leopard 2s not having the correct armor, but hey love the crab bucket mentality you seem to have going on, that’s sure to make you friends.
there’s been just as many reports about the leopards hull (which is FAR more vulnerable than the Abrams so not sure why you’re crying about that).
the change is ONLY happening to the sepv3 (which isn’t even out yet) so yeah pretty fast LMAO.
Why do America only players have such an ingrained victim complex while being the most handheld tree?
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I applaud whoever had the brilliant idea of posting this on a Friday; they’ve really been paying attention in their political science classes.
I’ve played this game a long time and while I only ever really play UK and USSR I am finding the difference in the treatment of nations disgustingly obvious. I want USA to be a good top tier nation. Not just for the sake of their players, but so that we have something to actually compete against. Playing USSR is not even fun because you just win every match without even performing particularly well.
This whole post is a weak response to a lot of fair criticism and good evidence from many, many people who have given their time and energy to making bug reports that seemingly are just discarded. To me, this is proof that the balance decisions of this game are not made based on evidence - but ideology. Even further compounded by the decision to make this post on a Friday in hopes tempers cool over the weekend while people aren’t paying attention.
I just want this game to be good.
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At this rate we’re actually gonna have GTA VI before correct Abrams hull armor
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i only just woke up and wow they really just swept the whole classified document thing under the rug
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There also ignoring that the documents they use in this blog came out almost a decade before the sepv3 even existed. Sep v3 rolled off the lines in 2017-2020 yet they use sources from 2006 to justify there changes. Also ngap the armor the abrams uses, is stated by the manufacturer to have depleted uranium. The manufacturer literally states “ Non-US export versions of the SEPv3 Abrams utilize NGAP/NEA technology customized to omit depleted uranium” why would they omit it if it doesn’t include depleted uranium? Gaijin is straight up lying and getting away with it because none of you players decide to actually fact check there sources. The pictures they used in the blog arnt even found in the document. They made them up to screw this blog in thier favor and you players do nothing
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At this point im not mad nor pissed but disappointed…
Sep v3 rolled off the lines in 2017-2020 yet they use sources from 2006 to justify there changes. Also ngap the armor the abrams uses, is stated by the manufacturer to have depleted uranium. The manufacturer literally states “ Non-US export versions of the SEPv3 Abrams utilize NGAP/NEA technology customized to omit depleted uranium” why would they omit it if it doesn’t include depleted uranium? Gaijin is straight up lying and getting away with it because none of you players decide to actually fact check there sources. The pictures they used in the blog arnt even found in the document. They made them up to screw this blog in thier favor and you players do nothing
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That is not Hull that is Relic ERA angle.
Against what ? Artillery ?
It’s 44 for Abrams vs 68 for T-series difference is 24 degrees.
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We don’t know the answer for many of the top tier tanks. Hell gaijin doesn’t even know if Relick is actually as effective as it is in the game.
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The US is already an incredible top tier nation even without the SEPv3 hull armor buff lmao.
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Overall I’m glad they addressed it and didn’t resort to we just don’t believe its possible like other times. and they have decided they will strengthen the plate, would i prefer they tell us how much now yes but its gaijin it wouldn’t be a dev blog without a completely unnecessary vague important statement lol,
Am i slightly upset its not going to the sepv2s yeah but that’s fair we need real figures for that which with time we will get and it will just eventually be something we laugh at the gaijin devs being obnoxious regarding it.
however this situation did as always point out some big issues within the dev teams handling of the situation and the bug reporting system.
the first being they knew it got an upgrade of sort and knew how (i.e. the new weld line on the underneath of the hull they use as a source here), but instead of what they did with the turret cheeks they just pretended it didn’t exist vs making a very underestimating prediction like there doing now anyways.
Why not mention a slightly improved hull in the dev blog if it would be a minor change in gaijin’s books anyways.
Now the bug reporting forum, once again as with almost every single controversy so far to “DATE” handled this so poorly to the point where it was actually infuriating to witness and i think incited more anger and just shear disappointment with gaijin in the community.
At a certain point the bug reporters have to only consist of either payed employees or interns who can face internal punishment for purposely mishandling or not bothering to even properly investigate the sources sent after controversy’s like this so the next time it happens they have a reason to properly you know do there job ( doesn’t apply to all bug managers/ volunteers).
now giving the benefit of the doubt not all of the reports were handled poorly, and a lot of the sources were repeats that tend to rely on viewer interpretation so I could understand them just skimming over highlighted sections.
But when we have large quantities of very well researched large sourced bug reports, denied and vaguely responded too in under an hour it is disappointing.
(once again, cause i feel like someone’s gonna complain possibly, not all the reports were as well researched. I’m am not crying that bad or vague reports were closed succinctly. The complaint here is that the few well made reports, were closed in under an hour. Which is simply not enough time unless meth is a common stimulant for the bug reporting managers to properly investigate and review the larger bug reports, that are more dense with sources.)
what makes it worse is both of the groups at fault for this decision most likely don’t care as they don’t have to deal with the player base, the only people that get insulted, complained, constantly annoyed by us, for something out of there control are the poor community managers.
who I’m starting to think get given a single sentence on topics from the dev like its some cryptic ancient puzzle and the mods are expected to keep all of us happy with that.
Its unfair too all players of the game, and the community managers every time they do this and it keep happening more and more frequently as they get more wishy washy with there standards for implementation as we progress in time with more modern vehicles.
still its really just time to wait and see how strong the hull is on the dev cause minor could mean like 20 mm rha lol or it could be like 50-100 since they also call a incorrect channel loss of 20-25% ish a minor difference from the standard 5%.
since the original blog i gave up all interest in the sepv3 and was enjoying the sepv2 trophy tanking 8 lmurs from 6 trophy shots was a pure bliss experience lol, but depending on the implementation of the hull increase even if only a bit i am gaining interest back in it.
The nearly 1milion rp barrier does kinda push it back a lot when you realise that doesn’t even include the stock grind of it.
Either way all the community managers handling of the situation was great or at least the best it could be. Considering gaijin themselves didn’t seem like they were intent on being helpful. And hopefully what seems like a small success by the player base here can lead to some other minor nation fixes i.e. challenger trunnions and the 100 of others that were held back because there wasn’t “exact figures” on still classified vehicles lol.
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true and i know people will disagree but man the trophy itself was already enough for me this update, like are the Abrams the best tank for me personally no, but i don’t think i have ever struggled with the US not being a top nation( it 100% is and might be THE best now with the combined 16 jagms and 20 gbu 53’s cas options lmao, there balancing seems to getting worse each update lol as if eft’s with spice and the lmur spam wasn’t enough)
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I dont think this is the argument. I think its very simple. The hull armor of the MBT of the strongest military in the world hasnt changed in 40 years? Its one of the best if not that in game anyways. Its just a more honest approach from Gaijin would be best. Also the two tow hooks contributing significantly to weight come on
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I don’t feel that’s true. I don’t really have any US vehicles beyond 6.7 but I play against them a lot. The Abrams is the only top tier tank I feel confident pushing 100% of the time, even in weaker vehicles I have deliberately uptiered such as the VBCI. The reason being that I know I can always destroy them frontally no matter what I’m using. I’ll give it a try at some point but I’m willing to bet I could probably manage 1:1 using a Panzer IV Ausf. H against Abrams.
They are pathetic and I don’t fear them at all. That hardly seems like a realistic state for the MBT of the worlds premier military power to be in.
While everything I just said is super anecdotal, I think it reflects well enough in the winrates. And it’s not like the average US brainlet Clickbait player is any more or less skilled than a T-80U-E1 premium player.
To summarise, I feel bad for the US teams and I’m getting kind of sick of winning. It is just sad to play USSR because of how easy it is.
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The Abrams is an incredible tank that scales more with skill than any other top tier MBT.
The only MBTs that is arguably better thsn the SEPs are the Strv 122s/2A7s.
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If we go off your stats you’re achieving only about a 53% winrate in the SEP v2 and 51% in the regular SEP (I’m not insulting you. I think you are probably a good player) while I manage 68% in the BVM despite us having similar K/D’s. I’m slightly lower in the T-90M at 64%.
Clearly you don’t play USA. Back to your FOTM.