You do know that all the placets in this blog with the seperate weights are for the turret right?
The Ariete warkit give “improvement” to the Protection and we all know Is almost useless
This Is what i Fear the improvement Will be: Something minor and with no real impact in the game
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Saying it sits 19 inches off the ground doesn’t change anything.
You are still ignoring that a mine plow is a temporary mission tool. Tanks do not drive around with them attached 24/7 because it does destroy the front suspension over time. They put them on, use them, and take them off.
An armor package is permanent. It stays on the tank for its entire 30-year life. Stona’s point was about the long-term service life of the torsion bars. Comparing a temporary plow to a permanent 24/7 weight is just bad logic.
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Find me any evidence whatsoever suggesting the mine blade significantly affects the service life of the torsion bar suspension. I’ll wait.
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Mark my words there is going to be ngap leak
I hope not
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well I’m not going to stop you from expecting things and making posts about it, however I think there’ll be a lot less support here now.
If it gets 450-510mm vs KE LFP it will be in a decent spot where it’s both different enough from the other SEPs and still balanced.
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No one is saying that, but straight up saying nothing changed and having the exact same hull from the original to the most modern version is also wrong. Thats like saying armor hasnt changed or advanced throughout the years. The leopard, chally, and abrams all should be able to stop 3BM42 more than half the time on their lower front plate
As I said earlier, if the problem is balance gaijin should say that. In my opinion, the problem is them lying to our faces because they want to believe they somehow know more than every western military.
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Page 24 https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA476340.pdf
“More recent advances have further bolstered the Abrams’ protection. BRL, building on
special armor technology, developed a new side armor concept that significantly
increased protection with minimal weight impact.81 This was handed off to the
manufacturer, General Dynamics, and is in the latest Abrams model, the M1A2SEP.”
not because it didn’t had a significant weight increase doesn’t mean it didn’t had a greatly increased protection. We still haven’t get this side armor that greatly increases protection neither. But this is proof that little increase on weight isnt equal to little armor added.
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Find me any evidence Prove that the Abrams’ lower plate can sustain 650mm of KE provide me with some sources, and prove to me that there’s a Russian tank with armour thicker than 500mm on the lower plate or side plates without ERA kit.
I’m not the one who’s made that claim nor am I the one with any sources for it. Refer to somebody else.
I cannot prove that because I do not agree with the premise. Even the UFP without ERA cannot meet that.
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Nobody knows anything even a tank crew member doesn’t know whether the tank will be able to hold the ammunition. For a soldier in a tank, the ideal situation is neither to fire nor to be fired upon, but anyway, there are so many soldiers on this forum
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the manual explicitly defines “Static Set” or “Settling.” Torsion bars are steel rods that twist to absorb bumps. The manual notes that if a continuous, asymmetric, heavy load is placed on the front bars without relief, the steel undergoes plastic deformation
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They have always skirted the line between balance and realism unless they were given undeniably hard numbers/values (and even then).
There is more than enough solid evidence that the LFP armor was changed/increased, but no values. So 600mm vs KE is as much as an assumption as 450-500mm vs KE.
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At the very least, we should be looking at about 540-560mm KE.
Always remember that Gaijin stated that one of the main parameters to make a sensible calculation and estimation was “the likely threats the packages would be designed to face”.
Therefore, it would not be unwise to assume that SEPv3’s glacis should at least be able to withstand 3BM46 (1991) and even 3BM60 (2016) to a degree.
Would I expect it to withstand DM53 fired from L/55 guns? Probably not, because this tank was never made to face such threat.
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I’m aware of how torsion bars work. That isn’t evidence to suggest their service life is impacted any more by that than driving on rough terrain.
Everyone is so at arms with each other here it’s genuinely amazing. I love this community.
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“Even” a tank crew member…
Crews often know surprisingly little about the precise specifications of their vehicles, particularly armour arrays. That’s information that is conventionally kept to repair teams who actually have to handle the array, and even then they would know only the composition, not an exact KE/CE RHAe protection value.
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You didnt read it huh? I stated 5 elephants in the turret. Is english your second language?