This clearly demonstrates that Gaijin had no serious commitment to the development of the CS/SA5 from the outset.
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People need to complain more. They’ll pay more attention if majority of the community complains
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Will they actually care? Doubt that. They didnt with KH-38MT, while thread had like… 7k msg
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Dude you’re in the wrong place we’re here discussing Cs/SA5’s underdeveloped missiles
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I just provided example of people complaining about smth.
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They said it was ‘guess work’ that command update = data link.
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However, neither radio-command guidance nor a datalink have been implemented for the FB10A. Currently, it only has infrared homing.
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well it means DL, although radio command update has been mostly implemented as SACLOS in game.
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Then make it SACLOS initially, and have the IIR seeker turn on approx ~1-2km away from the target and take over guidance, which at this range it would be difficult to flare. The TOR and HQ-17 ingame can already engage two different targets simultaneously, so there should be no technical bottleneck.
What’s funny is that the radar on the CS/SA5 is modelled to provide datalink for 8 targets at once, yet it doesn’t do anything in the game since the missile is only IR-guided currently. Gaijin has no reason not to make this datalink guidance function actually work with the missiles unless they don’t want to model the CS/SA5 accurately on purpose, which is what I believe. They’ve made millions of excuses already, such as “machine translation” or they believe update command is not datalink.
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Yeah but that is indeed a new thing, if we ask for DL though this will be just a SLM style thing requiring no suggestion. But issue is we can’t just deduce command update as ‘SACLOS’ cause it inherently isn’t and they didn’t accept it as DL cause it was ‘guesswork’
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SACLOS is just a basic form of command guidence, which FB-10A shouldn’t be using. it should be ACLOS, or you can call it data link in game
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The performance gap between the FB-10 and FB-10A in the game is currently appalling. The missile’s overload is too low; even in head-on engagements, fourth-generation fighters can easily dodge the missile with a simple barrel roll. How is it that the FB-10A, with a 160mm warhead diameter, has a mere 1.2kg of explosives? While the Pantsir’s 95Ya6 missile, with a 90mm diameter, boasts a hefty 5.5kg?
Furthermore, Chinese defense vendors clearly showcase on their official websites that the FB-10 and FB-10A missiles feature composite guidance beyond IIR (Infrared Imaging Guidance), specifically updated command guidance. Even if it’s uncertain whether it’s SACLOS (Semi-Automatic Command to Line Of Sight) + IR, it should at the very least be implemented as IR + datalink guidance. The current FB-10A lacks even basic imaging guidance and has no datalink capability. Even the oldest Russian Strela-10 SAM can lock onto helicopters using imaging guidance, yet the latest FB-10 and FB-10A are helpless against helicopters at just 4km. This bias is utterly disgusting.
Additionally, why does Gaijin think its maximum speed is only 725 m/s? Also, the implementation of the new US Humvee AA vehicle’s 9X and 120C7 missiles is extremely disappointing; their speed can’t even keep up with advanced fourth-generation fighters.
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I cannot imagine anyone who would know their product better than the manufacturer, just like a mother knows her child better than anyone else. To deny the information provided by the manufacturer is a prejudice and arrogance on the part of the community manager. This information should be taken seriously
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Gaijin is so arrogant
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The current performance of the CS/SA5 in the game has proved truly disappointing. The FB10A’s capabilities are grossly inconsistent with reality, despite many players generously providing extensive data during beta testing. Yet only a handful of suggestions were implemented, and even data verified by multiple sources were dismissed.
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THANKS TO CHINESE FRIENDS FOR DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT FB-10A MISSILES AND FOR THE CS/SA5 AA GUN ITSELF I HOPE I WILL NOT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH CHINA. I LOVE CHINA!!! Community Bug Reporting System
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WsPeBL385bF6
7k messages of which 95% was the same 5-6 dudes going in circles with mostly off topic stuff.
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Well if no one cries no one cares. I figured we cried enough for 99A so they had to rework it.
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Gaijin had no intention of making CS/A5 well
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