It is biased to not want a BR change to compensate with a nerf.
Reload rate and hull down long range combat.
Exactly CR2 NERA blocks are designed to stop any 30mm autocannon…including APFSDS rounds.
In game Gaijin rated them as 30mm thick.
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T-80BVM is more survivable and has a better round, and a lower profile. You hit a CR2 in the breach or turret roof and you kill the tank.
Reload rate CR2 has 4 rounds at the 4.5 seconds after that it’s 6
where my depleted uranium armor ? >:(
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its 30mm cannon so 30mm thick is accurate what do you mean? you know nothing
-Gaijin, probably
That’s still better than the T-80BVM.
Once again, you can’t nerf a non overperforming vehicle and not adjust its BR to compensate. Needing Russian ERA in that manner will severely harm them, and would force them down in BR.
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the armor is over performing is the point but i agree that it should be paired with a br rebalance
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BVM is 0 rounds at 4.5 seconds, 0 rounds at 6 seconds, then all rounds at 6.5 seconds
Also love the consistency of Brit mains thinking that mantlet and turret roof are only weakness on British tanks and not every dam MBT lol
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along with entire hull as well in case you forget
Unfortunately, realism comes second in war thunder. Snails wills that Russia be a threat at top tier, so anti-era tips aren’t modelled. Regardless, their effectiveness against the newest heavy ERA like Relikt and FY-5 are questionable, so you wouldn’t be able to gut BVMs or 90Ms anyways. All it would do is serve to force Tanks like the 80U series and the 72B3 down into lower BRs.
That’s just incorrect. The massive mantlet on the CR2 and Leclerc means that the BVMs are quite a bit better at long range combat. War Thunder hills are rarely steep enough to afford a noticeable advantage to the CR2 or LC without forcing them to expose their squishy hulls, as well. It’s really a goldilocks situation where the CR2s and LeClercs get to out-duel a BVM or T-90M in WT.
Tell me you never played BVM without telling me.
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funny that those need to go down in case that happen why that isn’t apply on Ariete and Merkava as well? since their entire tanks was green it should go down ages ago
hah like most of Challenger 2 expert around here that never even play a single round on Challenger 2
The T-80s turret isn’t that strong or well protected either, and it’s poor reverse harms it too.
That isn’t true either.
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Yes, they should. They have no business being top tier in their current state.
If they aren’t good enough for their current BRs, and wouldn’t be too good at a lower BR, why wouldn’t they go down, or get some buff to compensate.
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Still better protection than an Abrams, Leo, leclerc, Ariete, or type 10…
Next you’re gonna say “Challenger hull side and rear isn’t protected against APSFDS Britain suffer!”
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Excuse me what? lol better protect than what? Abrams? Leo? LMAO!!!
are you sure you checking before even said that?
Better than Abrams and Leo lol sht best joke I ever see
i might agree on Ariete but sht Leo? what Leo you mention Leopard 1?
Okay
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