Re-making belts for the 40mm L/60 (Lvtdgb m/40, L/62 Anti-II) with POLL

I got a suggestion for some of the belts for the Lvakan m/36 to combat different threats more consistantly.

This would affect the Lvtdgb m/40, L/62 Anti-II

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Default Belt:

Default belt is fine as it is and follows the logic of war thunders Stock belts for AA vehicles. And is similar to the M19 Gun carrier and Duster m/42

AP-HE-AP-HE


The AA/HE belt should be:

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sgr m/46-47 B ö hk sar m/36 D Not in-game (HEFI) 860 m/s
slsgr m/36 C ö hk sar m/36 in-game (HEFI-T) 850 m/s
sgr m/46-47 B ö hk sar m/36 D Not in-game (HEFI) 860 m/s
slsgr m/36 C ö hk sar m/36 in-game (HEFI-T) 850 m/s

Instead of

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slsgr m/36 C ö hk sar m/36 in-game (HEFI-T) 850 m/s
slsgr m/36 C ö hk sar m/36 in-game (HEFI-T) 850 m/s
slsgr m/36 C ö hk sar m/36 in-game (HEFI-T) 850 m/s
slpprj m/42 in-game (AP-T) 800 m/s


Ground/AP Belt should be:

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slpprj m/42 in-game (AP-T) 800 m/s
slhpgr m/43 B in-game (SAPHEI) 880 m/s
slpprj m/42 in-game (AP-T) 800 m/s
slhpgr m/43 B in-game (SAPHEI) 880 m/s

Instead of

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slhpgr m/43 B in-game (SAPHEI) 880 m/s
slhpgr m/43 B in-game (SAPHEI) 880 m/s
slhpgr m/43 B in-game (SAPHEI) 880 m/s
slsgr m/ 36 C ö hk sar m/36 in-game (HEFI-T) 850 m/s


I have no idea to get this actually into the game…

This belt layout would be optimal and make sense over the current belt layouts. So if anybody knows how i would go about to do this please tell lol

Would this be a good replacement for the current belts?
  • Yes.
  • No.
  • No, They should be laid out differently (respond how please)
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Yes.

This would also apply for when the Lvkv fm/43 comes into the game eventually.


Please gaijin its been several years and its the only production series SPAA made for sweden untill the TRIKA and then Lvkv 9040 came into service.

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Yes please!

I hope it going to get added before WW3.

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id prefer they get less AP avalable to them or for them to move up as they are currently really toxic tank destroyers

should i ping Smin on when we can get this?

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The Crusader mk1 is comparable to the L/62 Anti-II allbeit the crusader has more protection, only issue is the SAPHEI, can also just make it into one further mod for the SAPHEI and make a AP-T only belt as the standard AP belt:

AP-T / AP-T / SAPHEI / AP-T

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AP-T / AP-T / AP-T / AP-T

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could just fix that by making engagement distances higher.

that doesnt change them having similar pen to tanks at their BRs but are autocanons. they still have the edge on them.

could always do the better thing for the health of the game and remove AP from SPAA

It’s not health for the game by neutering an entire class of vehicles

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how dare the anti aircraft vehicles not be an anti-everything and make using tanks virtually obsolete.

Do you like constantly dying to marksman/gepard/XM246 in MBTs?

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XM246 and L-62 are very different vehicles. One of them truly is anti-everything the other has a ROF of 120 Rpm. It’s basically a light Tank with no scouting bruh

both are anti everything vehicles at their BRs without scouting.

At its current BR, the L-62 Anti-II really isn’t that problematic. It’s moreso the Lvtdgb m/40 that strikes me as a bit busted since it gets to face less armored vehicles more often, where the SAP really shines.

With better AP belt options, I could see the Lvtdgb going up to 3.0. It wouldn’t actually make either vehicle that much stronger or harder to player against in practice. The odd belt arrangements already aren’t affording the receiving player enough time for counterplay most of the time anyways, so this is just giving the player in the SPAA a slightly more comfortable experience.


That being said, I am a proponent of adding somewhat steep SP penalties to SPAA AP belts (case by case basis) as a disincentive to running them as tank destroyers, instead of trying to rely on counterintuitive belt combinations as a balance factor, which are ahistorical and have already been shown to be an ineffective measure.
I think the Swedish 40 mm SPAA would be an appropriate instance to apply such a SP modifiers, effectively limiting them to a handful of AP clips for self-defense.

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true but i have been victim to the L-62 even in some pretty thickly armoured vehicles in front on fights because of the normal autocanon spamfire the canon and then track them issues.

Autocanon spaa are inherantly going to be within the meta of this game for as long as they get 50mm+ penning rounds.

Sounds like a pretty good comprimise from my rather puritan “no AP for any SPAA” approach and gaijins current SPAA tank hunting hell.

would make it so these glass canons have more risk to them (other than XM246, that thing tanks 90mm heat to the turret all the damn time, screw that guy)

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+1, but reduce the muzzle flash, and add extra ammo or ammo boxes for the LvKv 42. Even with an ammo box currently it’s woefully lacking in total ammo and uses it quickly.

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Or just add the Lvkv fm/43

Its swedens duster with more ammo than the Lvkv 42

Besides the Lvkv 42 has more issues than low ammunition its inside is incorrectly moddelled and its gun fires the wrong ammo its supposed to have similar ammo to the AMX-13 DCA 40 with 1000m/s instead of its 850~ m/s

(No its not classified docs, you can view this yourself at “riksarkivet”)
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Gaijin in its infinite wisdom added the old hand-crank that are present on the older L/60 for some reason.
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Meanwhile the Lvkv 42 had power assisted aiming by the engine

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Also where is the darn chell chute???
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