This tank and all the future Canadians vehicles are for UK!
But I would accept the Netherlands in France tree to get some rams because… compared to the US the Netherlands used the rams
No “oh but the USA can get some too because we are friends or we invented the base of the vehicle”
They can get the M4A5 they tested. The real one.
I said nothing about the M4A5 and the Canadian Stuart
Will be 🤞
To clarify the Ram II that USA tested at Aberdeen Proving grounds was not called the M4A5 even in the Aberdeen files it’s called Ram. (See below)
M4A5 was the paper name given to the Ram II’s USA ordered but cancelled they most likely would of received given the time frame Ram II “A”'s as per their order and maybe Ram II “B”'s (the tank in game is of the “B” model). However the tank that actually was tested was a late model as a part of the “Final” batch of production. (It could of been a “D” model (still late model) i’m not able to review my notes on this atm but i believe it was final) The ram tank was only test I believe post war.
USA cancelled their order prior to recieving a single vehicle of the model they ordered or similar models(early models) that they called M4A5. It’s a purely paper name historically.
Bug report on the name:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rRjHUKbxG2sb
USA also tested the Ram I prototype but it was called The Canadian M3 Medium Tank but looked vastly different from the production Ram I’s.
2 years and they didn’t changed it…damn
On the old forum it was pointed out fairly quickly after the announcement of the M4A5 which is now over 9 year ago. so hopefully, but the main thing that can be done is just make bug reports when something isn’t named correctly or isn’t historically accurate.
so far its good but it relies entireley on german players being unaware. its completely outmatched in uptiers
this is reliant on german mains being blind morons and shermans also being blind morons.
the gun is worthless by 3.0 yet im still kicking ass with it. Sealblubbing even.
gaijin please never balance on player statistics ever again this is just ridiculous this only being .3 lower than long gun panzer 4s
The fact the Ram has an M3 chassis instead of an M4 suggests the name “M4A5” was assigned before the US even knew what it was. It would never have been its real name if it had been adopted because it shared nothing with the rest of the M4 Sherman family.
Alternatively, it could just be a big misunderstanding that has been perpetuated in secondary sources, and M4A5 was actually the name for the Canadian-built Grizzlies (license-built M4 variants) if they had been taken into service, which replaced the Ram on the same Montreal assembly line in 1943. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly_I_cruiser
Huh. We have the wrong Ram II then, that one has the longer barrel 6-Pdr Mk V.
You have any other sources? Where that image came from? That’s a bug report.
The ram II that was tested was a late model. Still not called M4A5 they called the early “A” model (and probably the “B” model but orders were cancelled I belive during “B” production)M4A5 if/when it was going to be used in american service but orders were cancelled before recieving or operating any. Which would of been the earlier models, so the model we have in game “B” is most likely accurate to a model they would have recieved if they didnt cancel the order.
The Ram II in the photo is a completely different model and not really a bug report as its also named differently.
Source of image which also includes data plate etc. RamTank.ca - Page 2 - MLU FORUM
If you’d want to discuss this more feel free to make a seperate post in the machinery of war section or dm me,as this post is about the Ram I. Since i saw people discussing the ram II i just wanted to drop some facts without derailing the topic too much.
