@Mrcll1221
Win rate is a stat of team skill, not power of a vehicle.
Yes, it has nothing to do with the Rafale&Mica-em overperforming. I’m sure it’s because the Belgian F-16AM Block 15. And still your answer shows how everyone else is right, you literally avoid any statement that is actually challenging your view and belief of the Rafale being a completely balanced jet. Talking about Defyn’s K/D ratio even tho Defyn said word by word “The rafale is stupidly powerful” Migan Fox-3 says the Rafale and mica is overpowered, France being banned from tournaments show how insanely op it is, and you still die on the hill of it being OK.
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All you talk about is win rates, which prove nothing.
Jagdpanzer IV: 45% win rate.
P-51H5NA: 55%.
Top win rates in statshark:
66%: P-51C-11-NT.
65.5%: Ki-67-I Otsu
65.4%: MB157.
68%: Sd.Kfz.234/1.
63%: Sd.Kfz.234/3.
The two OP vehicles at the top of this list have lower win rates than the other vehicles…
so why do nations with meta vehicles have a higher win rate even in highly populated nations in the game? Does this mean that skilled players are secretly grouping together to play those at the right times, while average players arent?
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They don’t.
M1A2s sit at 45.6%.
The OP jet F-18A sits at 49% in USA.
F-15A sits at 47%.
J-11 sits at 52.7%.
ZTZ96: 48 - 51%.
And so on. I can go through all meta vehicles and find most of them sit around 50% win rate.
Even better, why IT and GB typhoon’s winrate differs by about 20%.
Does that mean that actual idiots, considerably worse than US, choose to grind IT and the elite of the elite goes for GB?
(also makes a guess which one of those gets perma matched with FR, and which one against)
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All those vehicles have specific conditions that lead to those numbers, M1A2, for example had over a 50% winrate just 2 or 3 months ago, maybe even higher, and thats with it being a super popular vehicle. As for the F-18A, the same jet in another nation has a 57% winrate, but thats not about average player skill, its way more about matchmaking+meta vehicle than anything else.
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In air RB with mixed teams, 2 identical aircraft performing differently is because of the average player skill in that plane.
However, high winrates can correlate to having better vehicles, but the stats you should be looking at are K/D and K/B. Both of those have the Rafale way above everything else, and just comparing it to others makes it seem undertiered.
That argument only applies to ground outside of top tier (usually). Trying to use it for air RB is foolish because of the shorter grind and lack of lineup quality.
this argument isnt absolute, you’re making the same mistake wisla made in your statements, explain to me how, in a game that favors RNG all the time, skill could possibly influence winrate more than the combo of matchmaking + meta vehicles
No you are onto something, as you can clearly see, between the identical typhoons the minor nation one (italy) performs better than the major nation one (Britian). Oh actually the major nation performs better? Impossible, the italian playerbase is supposed to be 9000% better!
Take a wild guess which one gets teamed with france more often?
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Britain isn’t a major nation, more popular, yes, but not major. Just for clarification.
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This seems like the forum to ask, is their a reason why the rafale in game has HMD radar queuing in game other than for balance, I’ve seen multiple people discuss the fact the fr3 non exported version never had that.
First question, is that true?
And second one, if so wouldn’t it be an easy way to slightly nerf the rafales insane off boresight potential especially while in a notch? I genuinely would appreciate it someone had some knowledge regarding this.
It’s time to split the French to both teams, I had this match maker the other day, max BR on the enemy team was 14.0… we had 6 Rafs and an EFT…
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Pretty much yeah. Iirc the Rafale entered the dev without HMD and only 6 MICAs, because thats how they are in french service. However the French playerbase apparently managed to prove that the HMD 8 MICA combo was tested on french Rafales and that was enough for Gaijin to add it to the Rafale we have in game now.
It would but Gaijin rarely removes features after something hits the live server (and for some reason they seem to be completely fine with the current top tier air situation)
thank you for the answer that was very informative, but this raised so many more questions now lol.
Like what sources did they manage to actually find that verified this and is this not a worrying trend for the game if their were none,( also makes me wonder if people are gonna manage to find a way to argue the f22 should get HMD with how the French player base managed it lol.)
No idea what sources they used you can probably get an answer in the Rafale thread for that.
Its a bit annoying, because its once again completely selective by Gaijin, the german EFT also tested PIRATE yet every attempt to get it in game has been rebuffed.
It all seems very much like double r77 rack all over again.
Thing X was used on plane Y, therefore we will implement X on other planes which seem “applicable”.
(c) Gaijin, likely.
Eh feels a bit different, the Rafale stuff seems to be actually the relevant version of the plane while the double R77 rack is just taken from a different plane
yeah one was just eh it would probably fit, and the other was it was present on a near identical export model
I dont think its that, iirc they actually proved that France tested that loadout on french Rafales