except that from my experience, they don’t use either of them.
In before gajin lowers flare count.
If the EF has a better turn rate in real life than Raf… which is under/ over performing?
Raf best missle, best FM, best radar.
Exactly no point in playing any other TT jet at this point
Rafael definitely doesn’t have best fm in game anymore, that would go to eurofighter, but everything else sure
i’ve checked on many EF-2000 and Rafale Bug-reports, and respectfully:
“Quality of Reports Matters”
The pure checklist about sources, blocks a lot of reports, but also the “Plug-n-Play” quality of some reports are the one to get accepted and fixed the fastest.
And sadly, most EF-2000 reports aren’t as “plug-n-play” as most Rafale reports are.
That’s an observation i’ve made over 500 bug reports.
Now, raging about Rafale, without taking the time to make as good reports as the one done on Rafale, is simply not going to make EF-2000 any good.
Keep doing that,… and Rafale will continue to be as good as it is, if not better.
At least FeetPics understand how Bug Reports should be done.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/vBzbHgSGY6qS
Take it as exemple
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and missiles are still not at their best.
But that would be totally and completely undone if they fixed BOL:
Id trade 32 internal LCMs for 320 large calibre flares or slightly stronger than standard calibre chaff from the BOL pods.
So even if Fireball is correct on the count of itnernal large calibre flares. The Typhoon would still be massively underperforming in terms of CMs
Still underperforming loads though. Typhoon should have better ITR, STR, less weight (so better TWR), higher supercruise speed, better acceleration, etc etc
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If I remember right the only valid one was weight, everything else is unconfirmed just based off requirements for esr d
I cant recall what docs, but some people keep on fixating on some that are from 1987 which are wrong but there are actually more modern docs than those which are being used for the current reports.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/UzEsXa0vX05A
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/75Meg57oyRDW
for example
First bug report is using 1987 requirement as reference and assumes developer configured aircraft according to the EFA calculation. The plane in game is crazy configured according to the ESR-D requirement. And the thrust output for the EFA calculation Gunjob/Flame uses is debatable.
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so obvious that you completely ignored putting it into the first stat?
Also, it’s 44%.
until they, as I said, break.
Also prevents the F-14 sweeping it’s wings back so not a buff.
not exclusive to those issues.
The F-14’s design made it incredibly hard to recover from them too it would appear.
wasn’t talking about the F-14 here was I?
I was pointing out it sure as hell won’t take 13Gs irl, defeating your whole point of “the F-14 handles like real life”
that’s rich from someone who can’t speak badly of his precious tomcat.
Now, get this back to the rafale and it’s irl performance.
From people that I talked and from what I understand the reasoning for the weight reduction was kinda pulled outta the ass from sources that were connected, kinda like how squish once made (as a joke/making a point) of f-22 can have some insane thrust to weight. Ofc I didn’t really look into this report like some like bad karma or squish so I can’t conclusively say it was or not, but based off bad karmas community post it seems like they maybe over did it
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Someone said its best at dog fights again after buff, lets hope not.
As long as there is a way it can be beat then I can live with it having best radar and missile
Doubt it, eurofighter is fairly far ahead over everything that i don’t think anything will beat it
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The Rafale now has the TWR advantage that the Typhoon use to hold over the Rafale. Though the Rafale was always stronger in WVR due to HOBS IR/ARH missiles. In a close range dogfight, the only thing the Typhoon could really use was its gun (which doesnt even get the correct ammo belts)
imo it’ll be comparable to the J10 now.
French bug reporter just found crash report between two planes and basically backwards calculated lowest possible value.
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The way you explained it to me made it seem like there was no way gaijin was gonna accept it, f-22 million to one thrust to weight shall happen now
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It shows it in the diagram dude.
At this point you’re just spouting nonsense. What’s the point of jamming them if they break at the same speed? The current break speed in when they jam. So making them jam would have to increase that threshold to allow for this feature thats not on any other jets btw.
I’d rather just break my flaps and go back to base than purposely fly with them locked down anyways… Once again, you’re arguing for pointless things to be modeled for your pure (hatred?) for the F-14. Not to mention the flaps jamming is fixed with the F-14D anyways.
I guess the F-14A and B’s flightmanuals with procedures on how to get out of all flatspins except those two are wrong then… We got a smart alec here guys.
When every bottom surface of your aircraft (that’s 60 feet by 64 feet btw) besides the nose generates immense amounts of lift, it makes sense that it’s easy to get that air trapped underneath you at low speeds with help from a big loss of power/lift from one side of the aircraft…
?? And the F-15 won’t take 14G. The Rafale won’t take 17G. The F-16 hasn’t even seen above 10 before.All jets have a 1.5x buff to them. This is not an F-14 specific issue.
Of all places to say that, it’s when im talking about the stability problems of the F-14A. Maybe don’t use decade old talking points propagated about the Tomcat A model and you could see how badly i can speak of the F-14.
You were told to bring it to the Tomcat thread. You did not listen. I’m putting my responses in spoilers to not clog up the thread. You haven’t done any such thing. Lets also remember who started this with the misrepresentation of why I was saying…
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Tell me me if I’m wrong but doesn’t in “simple ways” Rafale be better at low speed and EF be better at high speed bcause of their respective canard configuration ?