You’re so goofy
Keep in mind there is a report about the harriers thrust curve being very far off. Missing about 35% of its thrust at high speeds. This report is almost a year old.
The devs said this: without increasing the thrust to irl levels we can’t make it sustain the G seen in the chart as such we don’t care not a bug.
Surely his word and the word of the devs is correct.
And yet when you compare it to other available sustained turn rate charts and conditions into will over-perform in the game
You are upset that the devs are not choosing the highest available single data point in order to index sustained turn rates.
I could very well do the same and use British documentation to suggest that Flanker turn rate should be increased by additional 1-2 degrees per second.
Like what your AV-8B chart, the one with a drag index of about 40??
You compare one with a drag index of 40 and another with 5 and go “look overperforming” -goofy
You’re so stupid you don’t even know that the Gr.3 is a harrier 1
Btw only 2 E-M charts for the harrier 1 family (AV-8A) exist. The other one suggests higher values.
This is 85% throttle at sea level and would be 70% throttle by the time you get to 20,000 feet. (Due to the PRL)
No I’m upset that they didn’t choose 5 primary documents that support the exact same data not 1 high point.
It’s all the same.
Have we reached your daily quota of coping about the harrier and spamming charts into a non harrier topic?
You brought it up mate lmao
No I did not. Nobody asked for a complete rehash of your Harrier rant.
Ironic that you complain about people reporting your post and yet it seems you have reported Kizvy for pointing out that the devs position as well. Odd.
I never flagged him just so you’re aware
Tbf there is already an accepted report for the harrier thrust to be increased, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s underperforming
I didn’t do that
I am aware I was referring to feety or one of his gang
if the devs increase thrust then they need to adjust the str so it roughly stays where it currently is
after all its missing thrust and not str
It’s missing tons of STR and climb as well.
Literally missing just over 1G in sustained G load. Unless you are like feet pics and can’t read a simple line on a chart.
only in wvr basically below 15km
and 95% of AMRAAM shots I fire are within 15-20km… so…
Top tier is mostly WVR to short range BVR because ARH are too easy to defeat at longer ranges
i have noticed in both sim and air rb people now bvr alot because they have the missiles to and numbers to have spared to get wvr…or they just shot your missiles down(you have 8 in the rafale and the f16pobit is even in a worse spot if your missiles get shot down)meta is changing if it has not already
and if they hit anything, its usually because the person they fired at was AFK or green.
Which is the other reason why I dont fire at long range.
Id gladly trade the 2+8 weapons fit on the Typhoon for 0+8 fit the Rafale can run with MICA EM. The Aim-120C5 is a chore to get work and the Aim-9Ms are barely worth taking
Looks like you are quite conservative firing your AIM120 below 20km.
I don’t agree anymore with the statement that top tier is mostly WVR nowadays.
From my more recent experience (pre update), I have noticed a shift from the complete rafale META to a gameplay with much more missiles fired bear max NEZ (if not max range) - especially from R-77-1 and to a degree from AIM120C (I guess it’s compounded by the new long range missiles from this update but k was on vacation so I could not test it).
From my experience, it’s highly common that between a third and two third of each or either team gets killed from that first missile joust alone.
That still gives a significant portion of the game where HOBS missiles still can do great, but I would say that as of now, between the high range advantage and ludicrous amount of missiles of certain platforms (but mainly the SM2), BVR is almost if not just as dominant as WVR META.
Edit : not saying that BVR missiles aren’t easy to dodge (tho it’s kinda a pain when you are in a plane that doesn’t have long range missiles or many of them, especially for those that are not the rafale), but it’s a bit of a chore, and it puts you very defensively compared to SM2 that can keep pressuring you until you make a mistake.
radars havea gimbal limit in the typhoons gripen e and su30sm2 you can data link your missiles in the notch increasing your chances of an intercept…so even while you might me notching you might die to a datalinked missile(amraams i have found are the best used this way…120Ds are hard to notch.not as mica as a wvr range mica but its good when its datalinked for a notching opponent
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