Ok so first and foremost I will say to the toxic realistic antagonistic people who will argue with anyone or just be a total butthead because they are behind a keyboard…walk away, this is a game and this game is Arcade based not real sim like DCS. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
The Rafale wings are ripping like nothing. I’ve played 10 matches and 3 of those the wings have fully come off and thank god for the Canards because I was still able to maintain some level of flight and get a missile off or two, I believe this over zealous dude got the wing rip at 750 knots which is 863mph and that’s at low altitude obviously where the air is denser.
To say the least that is ridiculous I think mine have been ripping slightly past 900 at low altitude maybe a little higher all I know is when 16 people have at least 6 missiles each (96) total missiles being fire and to say at least possibly 12 or more of those will be fired at you in a single match is insane, most can be avoided to say the least but most of them can not be avoided despite chaff despite a good notch. A 14.0 battle rating requires things that aren’t necessarily true of the plane for performance sake and balence of the aircraft but in the spirit of making the plane actually good, ffs this speed needs be at least 950mph before this actually is an issue and I mean at really high G turn.
You should not have to worry about the damn planes wings ripping off due to historical accuracy or whatever the case, let’s say your 22k feet up and the euro fighter which is insanely busted shoots a missile at you, you have to dive and notch immediately and get low as possible, this will cause extreme speed bleed, but also extreme acceleration when your notching that missile, and by the time you go cold and hit a notch your 1500 feet off the deck hitting a 10g turn at 870mph. Your telling me I have to worry about all those missiles being fired and on top of it the wings being ripped now!!! Like come the hell on the dude…seriously.
It’s bad enough top tier isn’t 10v10 or 8v8 it’s 16v16 ffs
That’s potentially 126 missiles or even more on a single team. Thiers no way some 14.0 plane should have to worry about the wings ripping this isn’t a skill issue it’s just a flat out issue for overall enjoyment of the plane the wings not ripping won’t make the plane OP or something the f15e can go 1.7 Mach and cut a 10g turn without wing rips and it has better missiles and everything, when it comes to fairness in this game they balance some stuff and other they flatly say “it is what it is, deal with it.”
It’s time this is changed and let’s make the game balanced but also enjoyable it’s not all about accuracy. If it was it would be dumb.
DONT FORGET WHY WE PLAG VIDEO GAMES TO BEGIN WITH, TO HAVE A GOOD TIME!!!
Not being a full fledged simulation does not equal to being an arcade game either.
The magic of War Thunder is being the perfect middle ground between arcade and simulation, where simulation elements such as damage models, flight models, ballistics, etc, are combined with an arcade enviornment that allows you to use any vehicle with a mouse and keyboard.
And no, pointing this out is neither “toxic” nor “antagonistic”- if anything, the only toxic and antagonistic behaviour is to address to potential people participating in your thread with such language and telling us to “walk away” just for stating objective and legitimate facts.
The goal of War Thunder is to faithfully and accurately depict vehicles, and balance them afterwards via BRs, matchmaking, and, at most, via ammunition selections available.
If you think there’s something wrong about Rafale, make a thread to gather information for a bug report.
If, otherwise, you think we should go around manipulating the technical specifications of vehicles “for fun”, maybe this game isn’t for you.
First and foremost, addressing toxic behaviors and telling people I don’t want to hear it is a problem?
Secondly your end statement is entirely crazy sounding once again, we reach an impasse where the entire joy of video games has been lost and your looking for what out of them exactly if not for enjoyment then what? A business? A job? Unfortunately that’s not why they were made sir.
Yes, for the sake of enjoyment some things need to be corrected. The F3 doesn’t even have HMD yet it does because gaijin knew a 14.0 plane without HMD makes 0 sense so some things are changed for quality of life and enjoyment and fairness. If you don’t believe me Watch Seeks new video on the history of the Rafale.
So yes I said what I said I will defend it, your statement to me shows everything what is wrong with war thunder .
No- the problem is immediately (and even preemptively) addressing anyone who may disagree as “toxic” and stating that you don’t want to give them a chance to disagree- it makes it feel as if you did not want to have any meaningful discussion, but rather, to be given a pat in the back by whomever may agree.
That was an unnecessarily hostile way to open up a topic.
At this very moment, there’s 181,362 people playing War Thunder. I am sure the majority of us are enjoying it.
Gaijin takes creative liberties only when these are plausible. Giving a plane a HMD visor is nowhere near the degree of manipulation as it would be to alter the whole structural strength of an airframe.
If Rafale’s wings are a problem, they probably shouldn’t be- in which case the best course is to prove it not to be the case in real life and make a bug report about it.
