Although comparing the R-27ER and the AIM-120A wouldn’t yield any profitable results, as one of them is SARH and the other is ARH, which in this game is a huge advantage. If one were to compare them with similar situations (constant lock on target regardless of guidance type, same altitude, same speed, etc.), then the result you might get will be better; however, do not forget that an AIM-120A/B or any ARH missile in-game will almost always be better than a SARH missile. In the R-27ER’s case, if one were to need the whole Mach 5, then one could use it, though they’d need perfect conditions. However, in the AIM-120A’s case, you can always use the data link and lose lock in case you need to do evasive maneuvers. So basically, comparing these missiles won’t yield anything but trouble.
If in any fantastic and fabulous way the R-27EA were to be added (missiles that are half paper, half model, half everything), then if it were to be similar to the R-27ER’s specs, then a comparison would indeed be able to take place and be discussed, but as I said, the missile is nothing but some sort of prototype.
They are apparently being considered according to a reliable leak which is terrofying to me, unless they are being considered for an equal to the Aim-120C5 that I dont think the soviets really have
Yeah, that’s why I mentioned them, but I don’t know why they’d introduce them in the game. I was told that Russia doesn’t have much to add when it comes to ARH missiles though, so maybe it’s because of that.
Yeah, Its basically R-77-1 to R-37 (iirc) and R-37 would just be insane to come anytime soon. Especially as it would mean skipping a lot of ARH missiles for the other nations too like Any other Aim-120 variant bar Aim-120D.
Still a terrofying thought.
Though I do still think R-27ERs are a potent threat even in the higher BRs if used right/at the right time. I reckon if I had the Su-30. Id be tempted to run 2x R-73, 2x R-27ET, 2x R-27ER 6x R-77-1 in ASB just to have a weapon for any situation.
So you stopped because of a fiction you made up.
Soviet tanks exclusively use their inferior ammo to NATO counterparts.
There is no tank in War Thunder using ammo it physically cannot fire.
There remains zero Russian bias.
Then again, you lied about your military service for attention, so you’re at least decent at making stuff up.
[This has nothing to do with BRs. Anyone that brings up BRs are moving goalposts.]
Yeah, the good think about the R-27ERs (and the AIM-7Ps these days) us that you can change targets, so if the target either dies or the plane loses lock, you can re-lock if you’re fast enough, moreover, they’d get the RWR warning once (for the launch) amd then, if you lost lock, they would lose the RWR contact, the moment you re-lock them, they wouldn’t know a missile is going towards them as they haven’t gotten a launch warning. Mind that for example, with the AIM-7Ms, you need to maintain lock so you’d get a lock warning succeded by a luanch warning, and when you lose the lock warning you can consider youself safe from the last missile. So yeah, R-27ERs are wuite good.
Yeah, and I think that is why people sometimes confuse them with ARH. Used right they are deadly. I hated dealing with Mig-29s in the F3 for an entire year
there is one tank ingame that uses ammo it cannot load maybe is able to fire the round.T-72AV Turms-T its a A model 72 that has 3BM42 from all i know the 72A models are unable to load this round so you are wrong
Dude, your comparison doesn’t make sense. First of all, secondly, R27ER is a FOX 1 missile and depends completely on the Radar of the plane that launched it. If it loses the Lock, it will be lost unless you recover it in time. Thirdly, AIM120 is a FOX 3 that, from 20KM, will use its own radar to guide itself. Your comparison makes no sense, FOX 1 vs FOX 3.
It might to some degree considering that a fairly accurate leaker listed the R-27EA as a potential addition (in future) and thus using the R-27ER as a stand in since kinematically they should be similar, due to the use of similar motors.
Besides that, the R-27ER actually has a shorter Time of flight to most targets (Delta of about ~0.3-5 seconds which increases with range) due to the fact that the AIM-120 lofts, so there is a case to be made in specific scenarios, where the -27ER can Kill trade, or otherwise sure there will be more complete set of defensive options available to the Airframe with the AIM-120, but that gets into planning and managing timelines and so isn’t easily quantifiable. but doesn’t mean you can’t “Crank” or “Drag” missiles to get the advantage at longer ranges in a 1vs 1 BVR fight.
It does have IOG so it doesn’t self destruct like most AIM-7s would so you still need to honor the predicted point of impact.
