R27ER vs Aim-120A

This just in- American Main killed by SARH missile, claims Russian Bias. “It’s just not fair! I only have 8 independently guided missiles to his single dependently guided one, how am I possibly to win?” says the victim. More at 11.
And up next: the AIM-54C, the Mach 5.25, 430.5kNs missiles everyone forgets about!

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Ok. Nerf the R-27 then

it never reaches that speed.

no because you did not provide a source.
and im not even russian lmao

Dude it is 200kg heavier than the aim 120… that’s well over twice as heavy as the aim 120.

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You don’t understand. A non-american missile is outperforming american ones in one metric. Forget the metrics where it’s inferior. This is bias. America is truly safering.

This is good data but something isn’t right. It doesn’t seem correct that the R-27ER and the Aim-120 are so close to each other.

It baffles me that this post is about thrust and aerodynamics, and yet the ‘fox 3 is superior and breaks the game’ crowd comes in and starts arguing electronics that has nothing to do whatsoever with what OP is trying to communicate.

Yes, aim-120 is fire and forget. That’s not the point. The point is that the R-27ERs is unrealistically fast, and for a game that strives to make these things accurate, that’s bad. They need to nerf it back to realistic values.

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350 / 147 = 1.25?

Fatter? You mean Calibre or what?
260 / 177 = 1.15?

They are really pretty close.

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R-27 hits at T=28s
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Aim-120 hits at T=30s
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Do you have any reason for those values or are you just making a random guess at what they should be?

That’s a meaningless stat card number with no impact on missile performance.

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Has that actually been proven?

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You will rarely if ever achive that speed with them in game. Infact pretty much every missile in game will very rarely reach its max listed speed.

The only time you can ever get them to go close to that fast is if your launching at 8-10km in altitude while going fast. Which given the average map size and general gameplay of WT top tier air that scenario rarely happens…

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Oh right because of lofting.

Does anyone know the conditions required for an AMRAAM to loft? It feels rare to get them to do so even at extreme ranges.

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Great, now you get the point of the thread. That’s what he’s saying.

Ok. The ER would still be better than the sparrow anyways and at top tier everybody will ise the R-77 so it won’t be a big impact on the game

It climbs at a 22.5° angle and dives when the angle with the target is 3.5°.
It starts at pretty much all ranges, except very close range.

Insane that even when ARH drops and nato gets arguably the best one there’s still a SARH that scares people to death.
Seriously though, 120s can guarantee multiple kills while the 27 can only go for one at a time. My advice is to abuse that fact

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People see statcard and assume it will be that like always (while statcard tells perfect case scenario) and it quite literally saying maximum speed, not sustained speed or anything else.

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yeah ive seen people try to make it hit that speed and fail when shooting downwards lmao

and this guy comes in here spitting as if what he says is fact.
“unrealistic”

basically what he meant was “I cant believe Russians are capable of making competitive warfare technology”

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