I’m sorry but what you are pointing out even if it may be true doesn’t justify at all how much nerfing Mirage 2000 and F16 radars have i don’t really know for F16 as the radar take quite some time to notch and stuff but for France i know that the radar lacks all aspect TWS, 530D lacks the ability to re-acquire targets if it loses lock until its battery time is over which means a less than 1 second notch can be enough to make a 530D explode and finally the RDY is way to easily notchable if the locked target notches for 2 second the radar goes off which it shouldn’t that combined to the fact RDY should have very small notch sector plus i could add that 530D rear shot capabilities were completely removed by gaijin making the missile usless in rear attack scenarios while R27 series and AIM7M/F have no problem realising rear shots. The game is currently full biased. Russia has the only thrust vectoring missile of the game, only Inertial guidance + data link missile which has almost hypersonic speed and 35 G turn capabilities all that while having a medium and long range IR version with an IRCCM, great radra and HMD designation for both IR and Radar missiles while F16 and M2000 only have IR missiles HMD.
Also, the only ‘counter’ to R27ER is the publicly disclosed as hypersonic AIM-54C
Which appears to be limited to mach 4.3 (not hypersonic)
F-16C radar is definitely not worse than the Zhuk in terms of notching resistance. The fact that every other nation apart from US and USSR is often left behind is a know issue and I myself complain about it.
As I said at the start of my post the ER is definitely extremely and probably too strong right now compared to everything else, but it’s still not too hard to avoid, and once you survived the ER the only option a MiG29 has right now against an F-16 is too run away, as with the new flight model not only the SMT but also the 9-13 bleed speed like crazy and feel like bricks under 600kph (the MiG23MLD literally outrages them). Claiming that the devs have a bias towards Russia is childish if you are playing US aircraft.
thats a statcard value that has no impact on performance
Which radar. The rubin? It’s not good in game either…
Meaning they should finally model the different seekers. This will only nerf the 7F.
Not modelled correctly at all, I agree.
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r-27e is better than all aim-7s, why does this surprise you.
Zhuk is hardly modern
Sources on the AiM54C being hypersonic??? The only 2 thing I know it had was a replacement of the analogue guidance system with an electronic one and the (not so) smokeless motor
It’s not a hypersonic missile, it’s just near the limit. IIRC the 54C later variants had a better motor
The Rubin is definitely not bad in game, as war thunder air rb is basically the situation the MiG29A was designed for: Take off → full speed towards contested air space that is less than 100km away → have ground radars spot targets for you (in our case we know more or less where they are since we know when and where they take off → lock targets and fire under 40 km → be good in close range fights
The rubin is easy to notch. Range doesn’t matter much in war thunder meta
If the G-pull is still only 17G more speed would only make it even worse anyway.
It’s not so easy to notch, it’s definitely (and rightly so) more resistant than the AWG9 and other longer ranged radars. And yeah, range does not matter, which was the big weakness of the Rubin in real life
We have an entire thread here:
Spoiler
https://designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-54.html
States mach 5
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/history/pastprojects/Phoenix/phoenixmissile.html
NASA claims up to Mach 5 for Phoenix Testbed
Zhuk “Signals” Values (su_n_010m)
APG68v7 “Signals” Values
Spoiler
Looks like 20m/s for the American vs 24m/s for the Russian (Edited because I’m dumb and don’t know my rooski radar designations)
I’m glad more people are doing these satire threads, I didn’t know I’d be able to get such a laugh from a game forum. Y’all should get paid for this!
I know what you are trying to say. But this needs to stop.
The Zhuk is from the late 80s so it is arguably very modern. Modern just means “of the modern era” this is a timeframe from 1500 on to the 20th century.
Historians don’t have a consensus on when it ended exactly, but we do know that it is indeed over.
The discussion is whether it ended with the second world war or with the establishment of the internet (starting the “information age”).
We also do not really know what the current age is called. In practise contemporary age is used.
But we also have names being thrown around.
-information age
-postmodern age
It wrongly used as a synonyme for “current” or “late”, that’s because it was able to be used for such a long time in this sense, since the modern age started after the middle ages and did go on just until recently. So 400 years of using the word that way needs deprogramming now. But that era is over, get used to it.
MODERN
1 a : of, relating to, or characteristic of the present or the immediate past : contemporary
No one is talking about ages or eras.
If a soceity lives in the same age for over 400 years, the name of the age becomes a Synonyme for “current”… i already explained that. Language is a living thing and dictionaries donnote how words are used.
Right until 50years ago it would still be correct… not anymore.
I mean the same dictionary says a “theory” is :
“an unproved assumption”
As you can see here.
Even though the actual meaning of a theory is wuite the opposite (gravity isn’t an unproven assumption is it?)
See the dictionary has it as an unproven assumption because that’s how idiots used the word incorrectly for so long the wrong (i mean it is literally the opposite) definition became accepted. That doesn’t make the theory of gravity an unproven assumption. And it doesn’t make whatever comes after the words “i have a theory…” an actual theory, it’s still just a guess not a theory.
Same with the word modern. Only because people use the words “this is modern” doesn’t mean it actually is.
Fly low and you good.
Is it at realistic that you can break the lock and lock the Target later so that the 27ER can be shot basically as TWS?
Technically. You should be able to fire all missiles without a lock