It’s not a hypersonic missile, it’s just near the limit. IIRC the 54C later variants had a better motor
The Rubin is definitely not bad in game, as war thunder air rb is basically the situation the MiG29A was designed for: Take off → full speed towards contested air space that is less than 100km away → have ground radars spot targets for you (in our case we know more or less where they are since we know when and where they take off → lock targets and fire under 40 km → be good in close range fights
The rubin is easy to notch. Range doesn’t matter much in war thunder meta
If the G-pull is still only 17G more speed would only make it even worse anyway.
It’s not so easy to notch, it’s definitely (and rightly so) more resistant than the AWG9 and other longer ranged radars. And yeah, range does not matter, which was the big weakness of the Rubin in real life
We have an entire thread here:
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https://designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-54.html
States mach 5
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/history/pastprojects/Phoenix/phoenixmissile.html
NASA claims up to Mach 5 for Phoenix Testbed
Zhuk “Signals” Values (su_n_010m)
APG68v7 “Signals” Values
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Looks like 20m/s for the American vs 24m/s for the Russian (Edited because I’m dumb and don’t know my rooski radar designations)
I’m glad more people are doing these satire threads, I didn’t know I’d be able to get such a laugh from a game forum. Y’all should get paid for this!
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I know what you are trying to say. But this needs to stop.
The Zhuk is from the late 80s so it is arguably very modern. Modern just means “of the modern era” this is a timeframe from 1500 on to the 20th century.
Historians don’t have a consensus on when it ended exactly, but we do know that it is indeed over.
The discussion is whether it ended with the second world war or with the establishment of the internet (starting the “information age”).
We also do not really know what the current age is called. In practise contemporary age is used.
But we also have names being thrown around.
-information age
-postmodern age
It wrongly used as a synonyme for “current” or “late”, that’s because it was able to be used for such a long time in this sense, since the modern age started after the middle ages and did go on just until recently. So 400 years of using the word that way needs deprogramming now. But that era is over, get used to it.
MODERN
1 a : of, relating to, or characteristic of the present or the immediate past : contemporary
No one is talking about ages or eras.
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If a soceity lives in the same age for over 400 years, the name of the age becomes a Synonyme for “current”… i already explained that. Language is a living thing and dictionaries donnote how words are used.
Right until 50years ago it would still be correct… not anymore.
I mean the same dictionary says a “theory” is :
“an unproved assumption”
As you can see here.
Even though the actual meaning of a theory is wuite the opposite (gravity isn’t an unproven assumption is it?)
See the dictionary has it as an unproven assumption because that’s how idiots used the word incorrectly for so long the wrong (i mean it is literally the opposite) definition became accepted. That doesn’t make the theory of gravity an unproven assumption. And it doesn’t make whatever comes after the words “i have a theory…” an actual theory, it’s still just a guess not a theory.
Same with the word modern. Only because people use the words “this is modern” doesn’t mean it actually is.
Fly low and you good.
Is it at realistic that you can break the lock and lock the Target later so that the 27ER can be shot basically as TWS?
Technically. You should be able to fire all missiles without a lock
yes, but the big question is, can the missle Lock the target again afterwards?
The missle has a Mem of 4 seconds, but if you interrupt the lock Manually, the missle is trash, as far as I know
what does the video have to do with my question?
where did you get that 30 r27er missed and only 1 barely managed to score a hit ? . are they are r27r/er or were they export variants and where did you get this info ?
I can’t remember which war (maybe the Gulf War?), but there was one where 24 R-27ER’s were launched and only 1 hit its target. Searching up “R-27ER 24 launch 1 hit” or something might get you what you’re looking for
If I recall, the R-27 is a maintenance heavy missile and a lot of countries that bought them tended to just let them rot. The US is the same way, their missiles require constant “preventative maintenance checks and services”… this is something we do even on our tanks. You let them sit… they rot. They need to be constantly tested and ran or they tend to fall apart.
These poorer countries were not used to the higher level of complexity and care that the R-23/27 series of missiles needed and as such they were found to be less reliable than expected… but certainly not worse than the Sparrow depending on what conflict we are discussing.
I’m not even sure why this thread is still open, the missile is performing accurately according to primary documentation.
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I mean yeah, I’m just providing what I could remember about what he was mentioning.
I don’t get this part, though, it seems to be massively overperforming in terms of maximum velocity and mach number; it’s got a maximum velocity of 1750.0 m/s and has a Mach number of 5.75M in game, yet I haven’t seen anything suggesting more than 4.5M.
Using the 1750.0 m/s value, we can determine it can go 5.141M at sea level. The thing isn’t supposed to be hypersonic.