Questions about the energy conservation of Mystere 2/4/super series

[primenut]

I’m currently focusing on early French jets.

But… there’s a big problem with mystere series.

Slow acceleration? ehh… no

Well, it’s a clear cons…nevertheless that’s bearable, because those shortcomings were common in the early jet age

The real downside is that energy conservation is ridiculously poor.
I was really confused in this part.

Compared to sabre around the same time, it has the same low-wing type of wing shape, it’s a swept wing, and it has an air inlet at the front.

however, there is a significant difference in energy consumption when turning.

So I looked around the FM chart of the aircraft and I got a feeling that something was similar to the delta wing.

I’m not an aircraft expert, so I don’t know exactly, but the Mystere fighter, especially the 4 and super series, felt like there is something strange wrong part of FM.

umm… Is this really normal?
If anyone is knowledgeable about aviation, I would really appreciate it if could check it out.

[AydanL44100]

Yeah these definitely bleed too much speed, gotta be their biggest issue.
And I can’t see what’s so different between the mysteres wing configuration and others similar jets, so the fm gotta be inaccurate

[AlvisWisla]

@primenut

The real downside is that energy conservation is ridiculously poor.

Aight… I’ll test sustained turning.
15.3 degrees per second on 20 minutes fuel for Super Mystere B2. It’s not as good as LIM-5P, but it seems about average.
Definitely better than A-4H. Better than Mig-21F-13’s 13.4 degrees per second of STR.
So it’s clearly not bleeding as much speed as deltas with similar or even slightly better TWRs.

[primenut]

AoA is high, so energy bleeding seems to be a little high… thanks for your FM test :)

[AlvisWisla]

Might need to control your AOA more finely in matches then.
Good luck with your matches.

[primenut]

Thx about your answer (‘∀‘ )