Q-5L, the second worst KD supersonic just got a BR rise

It’s underpowered and has zero defensive capabilities. Unless it gets flares, it will remain worse than the 9.3 F-104s, F-100s, Mig-19s, while being at the same BR as the vastly superior T-2 and Av-8A/C.

I just don’t want the Q-5s to be 10.0 without any sort of offensive capability against aircraft faster than them. Give the L PL-5Bs and put it at 10.3, and put the A at 9.7. I’m not denying that they are great at ground strike, it’s just that they shouldn’t be 10.0 because of their A2A capabilities.

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i would argue that killing ground targets is actually quite beneficial for your team, in no way its bot behaviour

i’d much rather have a q5 killing ground than a mig 21 bombing bases xD

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honestly that would probably be OP as hell since pl-5b is an insanely strong missile

how about granting only 2 PL-5B on Q-5L and put it on 10.7 as ‘side-grade version of A-5C’ then?

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sounds reasonable enough to me, would actually make me get it for once, since at the moment all q-5’s play the same

Bot behaviour is not demenering, it’s what the bots do in game.
What does a A4B bot do in a game, it bombs ground targets, still is not an excuse to raise a b.r. of a plane .

Still someone should make a post to request a raise in b.r., but it won’t happen, look at the responses to the b.r. changes, people asking for the F/A18C to be lowered at 13.7 instead ok asking a raise in the eurofighter,rafale b.r.s. Even in the past i made a post discussing on the b.r. of the F4J(UK) saying that the plane at 12.0 had the same b.r. as an F4S (better in everything) and i talked about how we needed decompression to fix the balance issues in game, but the only replies i got where people asking for the plane to be lowered at 11.3 or 11.7 ( basically bringing more compression to the game and still in the present people want more compression with the F18 as an example.
It’s like solving poverty in the world by killing all the poor people, it’s the same logic that a lot of player have in game.
The problem isn’t 100% the game’s fault, but the community too.

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He even said that the VT-5 was the same as the TAM, so you can already know where things are going

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Isn’t the flight performance basically just a MiG-19 with flares? When it comes to thrust, that is. The turn performance of the Q-5 planes is slightly worse.

Stat Shark info on J-6A and Q-5 planes

I also think that KD stat is affected by the fact that 90% of players who play that plane only go for ground kills (they don’t even try to dogfight!) Which is a case for a lot for these sort of planes. I haven’t played this plane yet myself, but at least on paper it doesn’t seem that bad. The TWR of the Q-5L is 1.00, which is practically the same as the J-6A (this value is achieved of course, when you AREN’T carrying bombs…)

It’s a gun fighter, yes. Which seems to filter a lot of people, especially the base bombing types who would much rather get their base bombing RP than actually play the game.

I don’t think the ground pounding efficiency of planes should have that much of an effect on balance (don’t strawman me, I mean it in the sense that it shouldn’t be the main-factor) but idk. I haven’t played this thing. It doesn’t seem that OP to or bad to me personally. I think this is just a case of compression and poor player skill. Daily reminder that bombing bases really doesn’t count as playing the game. That’s all.

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It’s not the fact it is a gun fighter that makes me abandon the dogfight but the fact the guns are extremely hard to use, cause they are practically WWII cannons and they are on the wings. Also carrying bombs neglects that chance. U also don’t want to dedicate to dogfight cause it takes time to turn with enemy to get kills, in which case u will eventually run out of flares. Also F104s and MiG-21s, or even Su7 and MiG-23BN can just simply put full thrust and leave, nothing u can do. It’s just not designed for air to air.

Balancing with SL earning is ridiculous, but I just try to work with it rather than trying to fight it. Gaijin is too “preserving” about their ways of doing things.

I think they’re a bit like me; trying to work with the system rather than against it.

It’s clear that gaijin loves compression, so some people, rather than asking for de compression, ask for lowering BR of their favorite aircraft instead…sometimes at the expense of other aircraft.

But that’s the Logic that Is killing the game balance, year by year.

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Do yourself in favor, stop saying that X plane has a better flight model than Y plane, at this point you must be playing dumb or you’re the definition of Dunning–Kruger effect itself

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Everyone has it’s own experience in game on each vehicle, that’s why we need a balance team, composed by people that have experience, know the game and that are good at It.
For example DEFYN or DonutWithMustache.

Yes.

Then you will forever suffer from those ridiculous balances.

We need to fight constantly against them rather than let them beat us, whatever they want.
In their theory, Q-5A/L will face F-4EJ, and no napalm bombs on J-7D :P

That is one of the reasons why I hate this game, even though I am wasting my life on this.

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This is an issue that the J-6A also has, it’s not really something unique to this thing. In my opinion the guns aren’t that bad, and yeah, carrying bombs fucks you over – which is why I think this plane has such a a poor KD. People focus on bombing bases, rather than trying to get kills. People die super easy when all they do is hyperfixate on getting the base.

A problem that creates a lot of controversies inside the game is that they don’t have real strict rules on anything that Is added to the game or to the changes to the game.

Issue with that take is that it is designated as a strike aircraft. Also J6 has 30mm which at least have the potential of getting a one shot on someone, with 23mm it is near impossible. Also J6 does have missiles, which can get kills be it quite hard, u at least don’t have to get ultra close. Also the issue is, ur not very fast, so half the time enemy aircraft just simply runs away, if u had missiles u could at least have a chance, with this, no chance.

Ok come on. Which one of you is carrying games in the Q-5 and forcing Gaijin to increase the BR of this clearly overpowered plane. I want to see some replays of these 10 kill games.

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