But without polish TT it’s not copy paste yet, anyway this has additional cross decals, if really germans didn’t modified it at all then it’s quite copy, but in WT copy paste practice is very common.
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and i would like the copy paste in game removed.
no it still is
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It would be a copy paste, assuming that the Polish tree will be created at all ;) and considering how Gajin works, there won’t be such a tree in the foreseeable future.And when it finally appear, there will be a lot of copy paste there.
There will be one
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My crystal ball can’t see that far.
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there will be one. @THEPolishThunder even has a entire graph on how…its a bit dated but it gets the message across
Spoiler
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We just have to wait, that’s it
@THEPolishThunder
I think this discussion went away from the actual subject of the suggestion.
I fully respect that some players want to see Polish vehicles in a future Polish tech tree, and I do not disagree with that idea. However, this topic is not about whether or when a Polish tech tree should happen.
This suggestion is specifically about the captured PzKpfW 7TP 731(p) in German service. If players and developers decide that this vehicle has a place in the game, I will respect that. If they decide otherwise, I will also respect that.
I would like to keep the discussion focused on the vehicle itself: its history, sources, technical data, camouflage, and possible implementation as a captured German-service vehicle.
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Regardless of whether someone supports or opposes this suggestion, I believe the topic itself contains useful information about the 7TP,. Even if the vehicle is never added to the game, I hope the collected material can still be useful for developers and people interested in Polish armoured vehicles.
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i at least dont. Its copied directly without any differences from the Polish variant. Therefore it is copy paste.
If your point is that a captured German-service 7TP would be technically the same tank as a Polish-service 7TP, then yes — that is exactly what a captured vehicle is and I never once said it wasn’t.
This suggestion is not claiming it is a different design. It is presenting a historically documented captured 7TP in German service. If you dislike captured vehicles, that is your opinion, but repeating “copy paste” does not address the historical basis of the suggestion.
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+1, but i want the British Vickers 6 ton too
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I do not believe it is required in the German tree, only the polish tree when it arrives
So -1
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Thank you for this opinion, I will take it into account when creating further suggestions.
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After seeing it i even more support idea of this vehicle for Germany, very well you showed how polish stuff are introduced to WT, a lot copy paste vehicles have been added and there is no reason to not continue. I liked grinding M55 for example on more than one TT.
All tech trees will stay unique anyway.
USA always will have the most diversity of abrams, Germany of leopards, Israel of merkavas, france of Leclercs, same with japan, china, USSR and polish TT will stay unique also, even if they give all stuff for export as unique line ups will stay. Just like unique line ups of magaches which is very unique experience (i know people who don’t play them don’t understand it, i can say a lot why, but i don’t think i will be able to convince you).
And to you pacyfikathor, for me this post was interesting, it can help add this tank to both TTs, it won’t decrease chances for Polish TT to be added. You can create any post you want, after 2 or 3 people were frustrated with it, it shouldn’t stop you. Maybe next time while suggesting captured vehicle take into consideration if it had actually any modifications so it would be unique modification (particularly in case of polish stuff like you see), instead of copy paste, which isn’t always bad though, some TT don’t have heavy tank or turretless TD and anything particularly armored at given rank and copy paste vehicles can help fill such gaps. If German TT can’t get this, then as well polish TT would be denied leopard and other stuff, if copy paste was so bad and even more if you will call unique modifications of vehicles also copy paste like a lot of people describe magaches, because if magaches are copy paste then PT-91 is also copy paste, i wish some people just judged what they say by mirroring it.
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Around 34 people voted no out of the 104
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Yeap around 30 percent
Also what is the reasoning to have this vehicle in both tech trees? Germany has enough of their own
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For the future add a how this should be added poll.
Tech tree
Event
GE
Squadron
ETC.
People are a little bit argumentative concerning captured vehicles. But it prevents people from thinking it’s a tree only addition might help. Captured vehicles make good event or pack vehicles instead of some cool prototype or modification.
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Good point, thank you.
I will keep this in mind for future similar suggestions and add a separate poll about the preferred implementation, such as tech tree, event, premium/GE, squadron, etc.
I did not add such a poll here because I was under the impression that suggesting a specific implementation method might be against the suggestion rules, so I avoided including anything like that.
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