PzH2000

the more rounds are fired, the longer the reload gets. the autoloader needs to collect the rounds further and further away from the turret, which increases the reload. 3 rounds in first 10 sec, video’s from Rheinmetal on youtube show 20 rounds under 2 min with 48v power-supply:

Vuursnelheid pzh2000 autoload

but these are under testing conditions, think video says trail area Meppen. doors to charges remain open, not sure if this is done under combat conditions?

In realistic scenario they would shoot and scoot before rounds impacted or very near that time to avoid counter battery fire.

The reload alone is nonsensical and bad enough, but can someone explain me why tf the PzH, where part of the entire REASON for its existence was to introduce a longer gun than on the M109A3 to achieve higher muzzle-velocitys and thus longer ranges, is firing american WW2 HE-shells with velocity thats WORSE than on the oldest version of the M109 with a barrel less than half the calibre-length?

As far as Im aware the Bundeswehr does in fact not deploy powdercharges from 1942.

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What is this then?

definetly not day night vision and definetly not a Laser-Range finder

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also on a different note the Shells damage is way to low this is what the PzH200 does to tanks

the sheer velocity of its Shell rips them Apart it doesnt even matter what you load into it on a direct hit with the highest load it just rips Tanks apart

Because it does?
The PzH explicitely has a direct-fire sight if necessary and a LRF, you can check that in every brochure.

It just doesnt have Thermals for the Gunner

though according do KNDS for the commander

Doesnt say that, can mean night vision for commander as well

It does. At least the commander. Even rheinmetall states that on their official webside.

Funny how thats not possible.
Because PZH2k is a kmw vehicle.

Day night vision, thats not thermal.
Thats a night vision device.the thing that makes your Vision turn green in the game.
I know pzh2k crew members no thermal

soon 5 months and no spall liner or at least a better HE that it did use i just find it sad how some tanks get a fix in a few days and others sit and rot for years till something happens

The PZH 2000 is not suffering. It is under BR’d as hell, and OP. Its German and nobody complains ofc.

how about you read what i wrote again i want it to get what it has irl and then balance it the right way but all HE slingers need the same balance treatment

What is it ‘missing’?

-It has a LRF at 7.7 = busted
-Stupidly fast reload for a HE slinger
-Good mobility/reverse
-Big target, but its much smaller than the useless 2S19

(what a joke; doesn’t get a LRF, and is worse in every way to the PzH2000 but is at the same BR? Nah.)

Spall liner.
Saphei ammunition
Modern HE round L15A2

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Spall liner at 7.7?

Modern HE at 7.7?

SAPHEI?

Least unbalanced and underBR’d german tank

did anyone of us claim we want the pzh2k to stay at that br if it gets those additions?
thats only your illusions.
besides that

China PLZ 05 7.7 has spall liner and SAPCBC
Type 99 7.3 L15A2 rounds modern HE 14.8kg tnt equivalent, pzh2k has 9.1kg
Vidar 8.0 thermals
Sholef 7.3 round has 12kg mass

dont act like the PZH2k is the main problem here, vidar and PLZ 05 literaly are already better and sit at around the same br

The PZH2k specialy is not the problem here stop playing the victim

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The PzH 2K is a problem though. I’m not saying those SPG’s arent, but:

it has the fastest reload (5s, then 7.5s)
it is more survivable, and cant be 14.5mm’d frontally
It is in the tech tree, unlike the Vidar and Sholef.
No stab may be a problem, sure, but its still busted without it
Vidar is a premium, and is insanely broken, yes but its at 8.0, not 7.7

nr 1 it doesnt matter if a vehicle is a premium an event or a tech tree vehicle,
they are all holden to the same balancing standard
the pzh2k bein a tech tree is not an excuse, or are you saying the italian pzh 2k premium should stay at 7.7 just cause it isnt a tech tree?

its a staged reload yes, that the only thing it stands out at
besides that remind me again , the vidar is nearly as close as well

you are purposefully ignoring the PLZ 05 arent you, its better armored and already has the spall liner.
so you are plain wrong there. There is no requirement of needing to get penned by 14.5mm.

irrelevant

so you would be happy if the pzh2k already goes to 8.0? because with your attitude i doubt it ends there. If the Pzh2k receives its deserves addition it can go up.

But currently both Vidar and the PZL 05 are still better then the PZH2K, go cry about those first

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PHZ has no thermals, so it can’t be as high BRed as Vidar.

would say it depends, if vidar keeps his current ammunition (i think it has better ammo in real life as well)
then the pzh2k could be equal with modern ammo and the spall liner both which the vidar doesnt have
strength in different areas.
But if the vidar gets those as well then yes pzh2k should be lower br then it at all times