Python 4

I think that if they haven’t included the P4 it’s because it’s really strong, but what it should excel at is precisely its resistance to countermeasures. For me, it’s very unfair that a Python 3 is diverted at the last minute and an AIM 9 L doesn’t even look at them.

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But accepting that would just mean p4 is no better than 9M. Pick ur poison, I’d rather have a placeholder until the real missile can come out. Unless for like China where there literally isn’t one so they gave us the 5EII placeholder.

It would be a huge ‘advantage’ over what is currently in game if modelled correctly, therefore I said u either have to compensate on missile performance and BR or just wait.

Well I mean I normally run out of them but having a reliable IR is quite nice to finish off the job.

Huh?
P4 has more g more range and speed how is it not better then 9m?
Oh and dont forget the 90° gimbal limit

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Which will make it OP, so no. You either have to deal with it as if it has similar range, slightly faster speed and gimbal will be nerfed as well. That is the price for it to come in now.

No u have the r27et with insane range and irccm
So p4 just trades range to pull and gimbal limit
Its not gonna break the game not even close

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R27ET I think u mean, that thing has basically no IRCCM, a single flare will do unless u are in a tail chase. Also it can’t do off bore sight very well, after all it is an R27E.

Ok then give me p4 with gatewidth irccm or how its called
And as i said it trades range and speed for agility

Well will u trade it for AMRAAM though? That is R27ET’s thing, cause it is like worst irccm.

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Yes
I need at least 1 df missile on my loadoat if not 2

Well yeah for NATO stuff they can be on either. Here is the case, u already have 4 R73s, do u want to waste 2 extra R77 for R27ET NVM ETs are 1 flare thing, be it R77s are bad.
R27ETs occupying ARH missile slot is what balances it out. Which except for SU30 it is a concern.

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If u want to take r27et or r77 its your choise but at least u have the option
I want the same

If u want the same then you will have to have nerfed missile like everyone else.

U mean derby?

I doubt that will be the case
They will probably change the seeker irccm drag coefficient and fin aoa since the p4 rn is a p3 placeholder in the files except for the seeker head
Tbf i think it will get the 9m irccm and the fin aoa of the aam3

Their flare resistance is identical. Your anecdotes are worthless when we know the exact values.

And in fact, the greater average speed of the Python-3 gives it greater practical flare resistance as it will close the distance to target faster.

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It does seem that way though, I haven’t worked out quite why. I think it’s because it turns better that it seem to turn away at last moment and 9L sort of ‘fails’ to do this, like it still turns but the velocity isn’t enough to move it out of the way.

Python 3 has that big problem, said by the Gaijin themselves, P3 has no resistance to countermeasures.

Not rly cuz it has bigger seeker
I didnt noticed it to have better flare ressistant if not worse

if you get a rear aspect shot no flare is saving you from that 27et

yes thus why i said tail chase excluded.