And if we expand that to all tier 7 premiums, we can also add the the F-4J UK and Kfir Canard. Arguably also the F-104 TAF and J35XS as well. They get more missiles, but the missiles are worse, and with other sizable downsides (F-104 chassis and 6 shots of CMs, respectively).
Outside the outliers, the F-4S and MiG 23 ML, both of which are way stronger than the rest, the J-7D is completely on par with the other premium options other nations get.
literally everything you mentioned has the benefit of 10.7 BR, J UK is just bad plane overall.
As someone who’s ground all the way through the regular EJ to get to the F-16AJ, it pains me to agree
EJ and ADTW are hurt hard by compression, no all-aspects and an absolutely garbage excuse of a radar with non-DF 7Es and no agile eagle slats… At 11.0. At or slightly above the same BR, Russia gets the MiG-23 ML, France gets the F1C-200, and the US gets the F-4S, all of which get better armaments and agility…
literally me
The F-104 TAF is also 11.0. And, I forgot to include the new kid on the block, the German Tornado, 2 AIM-9Ls on one of the worst dogfighting platforms of all of top tier.
Also, the current benefits of preferential matchmaking that 10.7 gets over 11.0 will dissapate over time as top tier gets moved higher and more interrim jets get added to 11.7. Once we see 12.7/13.0, a lot of the 12.0s that currently dominate the 11.0 MM bracket will get sucked up and inflict 11.0s on 10.7s a lot more.
At the end of the day, tier for tier, the J-7D is mediocre, but far from being the worst premium options between nations. 4 Magic 1 equivalents on a MiG-21 chassis isn’t bad.
104 S TAF has Aspide and the ability to bomb a whole base clean.
It has fighting chance.
No radar missile? aight, there’s bombsleighing ability.
It has arguably more fighting chance than J-7D and ADTW since ADTW is slower to reach base compared to 104 S TAF. and the IDS WDT is a shitty cashgrab, no need to point that out.
Which never happened and 10.7 is still the best BR to be around as the true compression happened in 11.0 - 12.0 bracket where the performance difference is too great to fight.
Another rant post for J-7D?
Again… That’s skill issue.
F-104S will lost guns if you carry Aspide so, taking it is literally pointless lmfao
*MiG-21MF with steroided engine
worst part it doesnt even have the aspide its the F104S ASA that gets the aspides
Wait wasn’t it possible to carry Aspide or AIM-7s?
Is it just AIM-9Ls?
J-7E which is marginally better than J-7D is at the SAME BR just saying…J-7D is a mig-21bis with less and even worse missiles
F104S TAF gets Aim-7E without the guns
With the F104S ASA gets Aspides and no sparrow and no gun
it’s F-13, china only get F-13 and they go from there
The gun on the F104S is alot better than youd think
uh, my experience in F-104J would like to reject your premise
Probably you are compareing J-7E. Agreed J-7E is much better than J-7D but, isn’t it possible to move up to 11.3BR with PL-8s for makes it counterpart of Kfir C.7? You know current J-7E is one of best 11.0BR jets at the moment.
My kills with the F-104s are almost 50:50 with guns and missiles.
It appears you are unaware that China has a J-7II that is basically MiG-21 F-13 with additional guns and bit better thrusts.
uh, my experience in F-104A and F-104G(Germany and Italy) would like to reject your premise.
Why you post on Forum then lol. There are literally public space.
Again… Come back here when you learnd how to play late MiG-21s in Jet RB match.
Probably, that’s language barrier but, You are the one who said the J-7D was a MiG-21 F-13, not MiG-21MF that is actually close to the J-7D in the game.
here let me give you EVERYTHING you need to know about the difference between F-13 and MF.
Ready?
It’s the Tumansky R-13. that’s it, it’s the same airframe.
If you want PL8s on J7E then it must be remodled to J-7G or add a separate foldered one for 11.3. Afaik J-7G has HMD too?