gaijin u no want to fix puma track?? afther puma get a shot in turret and ammo explode all two track completly destroyed… this how works? u get a turret shot and track has ben damaged? u no have chance to evade from here because the puma is complete imobilized. no gun, no missile, no track!
I think the fact that the Puma is functional after a catastrophic ammunition cookoff is a bigger concern than surviving and having both tracks destroyed.
30mm isn’t even a fraction as sensitive to actual chain detonation as 50/75/105/120/etc…mm rounds due to the fact they’re metal cased rounds instead of highly flammable nitrocellulose covered in paint… The propellant is a fraction of what would be necessary to properly heat up and ignite other adjacent rounds. In fact ammo detonation of 20-30mm is practically a non-issue to begin with unless something else is providing the fuel source of the fire…
how to survive? u gun have destroyed because ammo exolode and u no have tracks because gaijin opinion is u get a turret shot and all thwo track gone because why no…
Honestly this is one of those tanks where getting shot sounds like it’s over. So, don’t get shot xD
Not the most helpful advice but it is advice lol
man for this no have crew in turret… but u get turet shot track gone… but u not
Both the PUMA, hadn’t played them for a while, yesterday decided to take them out again then spend all the game repairing, one game repaired over 10 times, 10x30 seconds = 5 minutes, every other game maybe 5-7 times as soon as I shows my turret which is something near impossible to hide these days.
Did they added a few billions modules in there since a year ago?
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If you think the Puma is bad… look what they did to the BMP-2 and BMP-2M… any shot will break like 1000 modules, set something you can’t extinguish on fire for 10s…
BMP-2 just straight up explode when it get hit lol well at least the PUMA didn’t die when hit in the turret, but damn playing this thing is like a repair simulator, gonna keep them in the shelf again, literally unplayable/unenjoyable.
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Yes. They made them where the whole FCS stops when ever any of them are hit. Because manual backups aren’t a thing to Gaijin.
One time I got hit and couldn’t move, driver is orange, track ok, engine ok, but still can’t move and force to repair, then it turns out that there is this part called driver control system lol like wtf
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Something something about “game balance”.
They added so many systems, the thing takes forever to repair. And they decided all of them should be tied together. An MG hit to the anti ATGM cone that doesn’t even work can disable the entire PUMA.
Also that stupid battery system on the pzh2000 and 2s6.
Maybe they should also add more realistic health model, like crews has a probability of death by diabetes or heart attack, not a bad idea since some vehicles already have sextillion ways to go wrong.
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True, what bothers me the most is the inconsistency. There’s a single line of tanks that have a modelled trunnion. Some tanks can be 90% destroyed and happily keep firing, while others get disabled by a 50cal hit to the tracks.
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Got bored at playing the game but my fingers are itching so gonna write some nonsense about PUMA that probably nobody even cares.
Since the addition of PUMA with wooden pallets is around the corner, me as a casuals who played the 10.3 PUMA to Ace, here’s my personal opinion about PUMA’s usability/survivability on various maps bros
# 38th Parallel | I find the PUMA is pretty dogwater here, there is almost no place to camp hull down, any place you can open fire you are completely exposing your hull, also map is pretty small so most engagement are cqc so you can’t utilize the 15x gunner sight to snipe and bully enemies with bad optics. Don’t use it here
# Abandoned Factory | The PUMA is completely useless here, it’s another stupid cqc map for orange cats to brawl head-on and the only thing PUMA has a chance of killing head on is enemy light tanks, if you wanna be useful might as well just spawn a 8.3 Gepards in this map bro or you just sit at spawn and use scout drone I bet you’d be more useful. Don’t use it here
# Advance to the Rhine | Another orange cat cqc map like the above, the PUMA is completely useless/garbage here so don’t use it here. If you insist wanted to use it then roll a dice and pray to god to give you enemies who blasts loud music and they also completely blind or they are weebs who play with one hand so you might find your chance to drive around and appears behind them and shove apfsds up their asses, thats the only chance you will perform remotely well here else don’t bother.
# American Desert | Compare to the orange cat maps above, it’s a slightly better map for PUMA due to the terrain patterns, I can drive the PUMA around outside A and C and exposed only my turret to engage the enemies, at least you could avoid head-on engagement like the cqc maps above.
# Aral Sea | You can camp your PUMA here and easily score >1000 mission points, F4 is the best spot since you can watch the entire C from there and it’s hard for enemies to hit your tiny turret, and you can also look into their spawn directly to perform spawn killing, or mark every one of them moving out of spawn so your CAS buddies can nuke them easily. PUMA is usable here, you can easily kill a few enemies then decide if you ready to die then drive to the objective point with at least 2-3 kills/assists instead of going 0-1 like a loser. Had a few nukes here from just sitting in one spot so not bad IMO.
# Arctic | An alright map for PUMA since you can hide your hull everywhere and scout for the enemies and pick the target you could kill or farm kill assists without risking permanent damage like crew loss. Map size is not ideal for PUMA as most useful spots either doesn’t buy you enough time to repair and reload after cook off so enemy easily push you after they see your fireworks.
# Ardennes | Pretty bad map for PUMA since its complete garbage at cqc offense and the objective points is in the middle of the city, certainly not worse than the first three maps above since there are areas you can hull down. Rarely had good game here so no comment.
# Breslau | PUMA is garbage here, don’t use it here unless you wanna suffer or you have an iq of my orange color cat. Stay away from city maps unless you use teleport cheat.
# Cargo Port | Pretty garbage vehicle to play A or B. I’ll go to C since there are good opportunities to flank the enemies going after B driving next to the main road, enemies has to watch two directions so your odds are usually good there.
# Carpathians | No comment here, in short the PUMA sucks here.
# Battle of Hurtgen Forest | This map is good for flanking, just don’t enter the city you’d have a PUMA that is well fed. Edge of the maps are all good spots for the PUMA to deal a lot of damage via flanking and only risking minimal damage like ammo cookoff, your PUMA will easily survive very long with good score as long as you don’t enter the city.
# Fields of Normandy | Pretty good map for PUMA to camp hull down watching C point, you can also shoot through thousand of trees to kill marked enemies. To find their hit box, simply spam the range finder until the commander says the target. Once you got bored from all the kills and kill assists, then you can drive around like a headless chicken and die, at least it’s very unlikely to go 0-1 in this map making the PUMA looks like its completely useless.
# Maginot Line | Pretty good map for the PUMA to deal a lot of damage before you decided feed it to the enemy, especially the large variant. You can sit back, mark the enemies going after B and C, on the south side you can even shoot into their spawn at 2km to kill their SPAAs. In this map there will be a lot of kill assists.
Spot 1 is pretty broken if you decided to camp your PUMA there, because the only thing that could kill you is Spikes or CAS, don’t mention HE because you have to sit there not moving for 2 hours for the low velocity HE to even hit your tiny turret. The blue area is basically your coverage.
** # Fire Arc ** | Didn’t play much so dunno, probably playable if your team from south side and managed to secured B point domination mode, you can look into their one of their spawn to spawn kill their asses at around 1.6km. I often just simply leave without even spawning bro
** # Fulda ** | Playable map for PUMA since you can hull down everywhere bro
** # Red Desert ** | Dunno, rarely spawned here, probably decent since you can hull down, engagement range is up to 3km and you have 15x optic and thermals so you are good.
** # Serversk ** | Pretty rubbish in this map, too few useful camping points for you to watch the hot spots.
** # Pradesh ** | Good map for PUMA to camp, to scout and to deal damage, engagament range up two km and plenty of spots to hull down, as long as you are aware of how much your hull is exposed then you simply cannot die if you get shot in the turret.
TLDR/water is wet/poop is smelly version: The PUMA sucks to play in many maps that doesn’t allow it to hide its hull (if you going to drive around in this thing, might as well just grab your gepard because PUMA is garbage at this), but extremely annoying to play against on large maps that it could hull down. The PUMA is also very capable of defending itself against missiles attacks like Spikes or ATGMs because you can shoot them down with the AHEAD, so always activate your thermals and be aware of CAS so you can see them to intercept their ammunitions. The PUMA probably has one of the lowest DPS in the br bracket along with other IFVs with similar weaponry like CRV block, unlike these poor guys the PUMA is more survivable because it doesn’t blow up when getting hit in the turret, low DPS means you gotta take a long ass time to kill your enemies, so you are going to expose yourself longer to enemy fires for a lon so don’t bother drive around and die to every mbts and cry about it like I do, its a vehicle that invest all the points into hulldown camping perks.
So anybody here discovered any other ways to play this thing without going 0 kill 1 death every matches then do let bros know your tricks.
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It’s just a sad piece of BMPT food, most maps aren’t really suited for wheeled vehicles, spikes suck and so do most bushmaster vehicles. I’d just avoid it
For the bmpt yes, I would avoid playing Germany from 10.7 to 12.7 for one month after the release of pallet PUMA. Even a hull down PUMA has very little chance to pop a bmpt unless it’s on the side, trade fire PUMA continue to cook off because it’s 200% easier for the bmpt to cook the ammo of PUMA than the other way around. PUMA can also cook bmpt’a ammo by hitting the belts but it take a while to hit the sweet spot.
The Primary issue with the Puma as a whole is that the Matchmaking changed but not the Puma and there are Reports that would Improve its effectiveness laying around for Months or even Years (a few even from 2022) and the thing is that the Puma just barely changed while the Game did change, now i do hope that with the U14 they gonna make it more tanky and effective with the Reports that have been laying around accepted.
Note: No giving the MK 30-2/ABM its optional “Burst Fire” wont really fix it since its as the name says a Burst fire of 3 Rounds in 600RPM however this is by Request of the Customer and it has been confirmed by the Bundeswehr (The German Armed Forces) that it simply does not have that Feature.
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And even Compared to the Real Puma its not even close to its Protection/Abilities. Its Frontal Armor ingame is a Total of 20mm while Irl its Measured to be ~80mm.
Then we also have the Roof Protection on the Hull that should be Identical to the one seen on the Strv 122 since both use the AMAP-R but the Puma has the so called Hedgehog Armor on top.
A Few Areas aswell like the Frontal Side are seen as 4mm Structural Steel (even though they are part of the 10t C Armor Configuration).
The Sensors (MAW & Jammer) Only detect a Missile at the same Range as a Trophy System which isnt even Accurate since the Sensors on it can detect a Missile´s UV from 3-4km away.
And lastly it also has Spall Liners ranging from Driver´s side to the entire crew compartment (Roof Included)
