Since the snail maybe blessing Japan with an ASIAN GROUP sub tree I would love to see this next to its OPLOT sister in the tree. The Japanese tree could have 3 eastern style tanks that are very completive. Question though how much better is the armor or will it still suffer?
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Malaysia could also get there own T-84 as they did test it and it was specially built for them so its not a copy past Thai T-84. So they could get two top tier tanks which is not a lot but its something.
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The armor is okay, essentially a has minor improvements on T-72M1. Main improvements are the ERA, with ERAWA 1 (comparable to M1) and ERAWA 2 (comparable to K5)
There is also a new much better Pangolin ERA being developed that can be used in place of ERAWA, but as Poland is phasing out it’s PT-91s it probably will only be used on the K2PL.
And then there is the question if Malaysia would even buy Pangolin.
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Wasn’t sure if there were differences, that would also be very cool, would that be folderd with the Thai T-84?
From what I am reading Malaysia tested a lot of tanks so much more then 3 but I’m sure if someone wants too they can make a good handful of posts.
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As far as I remember they reach 70km/h or 72km/h top speed (which was one of the requirement for their mbt) and a decently good 25km/h reverse speed with offroad top speed of 45km/h with the new transmission. Which also allows them to neutral steer. http://web.archive.org/web/20110719065442/http://www.renk.newsfactory.de/cms_media/objekte/266-ESM%20350.pdf
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tank trials besides PT-91 are, K1 88, T-90, T-84, T-72S (change into T90), T-72M1 from Slovakia and Vicker Mk3(M) from the Brits
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They also had custom made composite armor which no one knows what’s inside except for the manufacturer and the Malaysia Army.
Their gunner is equip with Sagem Savan 12 meanwhile the commander is equip with Vigy-15 system ( I guess it’s call savan-15 as well) Their system and BMS are all NATO spec
Their autoloader carousel is also armored plated cover
the rest is as OP said, obra-3 laser warning, gen 3 erawa-2 and such. I got to visit their military exhibition a few years back. Apparently they are no longer getting Bosnian shells (In huge stockpiles). No they didn’t tell me which or from who are they using currently for their new ammo, I guess they found better stuff.
here’s the PT-91M sight comparison with other MBT PT-91M sensor comparison - Album on Imgur
here are some of it’s mobility shown at here and here with some action
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Now this is some good meat.
how do you know it’s “minor improvement” when the composite armor is heavily custom made? The sparrows in Gliwice were chirping that Malaysia didn’t want either CAWA or fiberglass/STEF
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one of the much better export " T-72 " the other I could think of is Serbian M84AS series
Seeing as Japan just got a confirmed Malaysian subtree it seems this will tragically not be in the Polish tree (and it would have been a perfect top tier squadron vehicle)
But hey at least maybe it’ll come sooner than later
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Who knows, it can also be a start to the Polish tech tree :)
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There’s still the PT-91E if needed, which should be very similar to it. But even aside from that there’s a lot of interesting purely domestic variants for the Polish tree as well.
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what tech tree?
There’s actually also the PT-91P proposed to the Peru that can be used
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Yeah, though I see the spot of top squadron tank as best filled by an export variant of a tank, and the PT-91M would have fit perfectly for that description. Of course there’s the very similar E that could be instead, though that was only a prototype which is a tad disappointing compared to a proper export vehicle. The E IMO would have been a premium. And of course there are plenty of comparable domestic PT-91 variants for the Tech Tree.
so… which tech tree?
Will be going to Japan
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they do need more “armour” around top teir