Surbaisse to 7.3 or buff it’s round. It should not be in the constant 8.7-8.3 blackhole
It has no armour questionable mobility, all it really has is it looks and a good rate of fire. But the 120 AP is painfully mid, bouncing off IS2s and Tiger 2s is a bad joke. Don’t even try it against a T-54!
Optics are too poor to snipe and the gun is also very inaccurate (not sure if this was a balancing decision)
Not 7.7 material
The good ol Meatball launcher- Resistent to 50cals frontally and even some autocannons lol
Sweden Could use the “Minimal Exposure Derp cannon”, Same gun as the Spj fm/43-44, Just mounted a tad higher for those sneaky peeks, Also its very tall-:
It’s playable if you get a 7.7 game which is incredibly rare, you are always uptiered and you have no armour to deal with it. The Lorraine 40T is just so much better.
Dropping it would prevent the constant uptiers and give it a chance. Statshark is talking win rates of the whole French 7.7 lineup which is good
I played it a lot in 8.0 / 8.3 and never had a problem.
As long we’re waving WW2 things fight WW2 things, I’m happy.
Off topic, but:
Agreed. I need my WW2 German tank sights.
These stats do actually qualify for Gaijin to move it up.
Eh I disagree, if it was 2.25 KDr or higher, then yes
Gaijin has moved up tanks for having a 1.3, shows how terrible this playerbase is.
Then why is the Tiger II and T29/30/34 all still 6.7 - 7.0?
British RB Ground BR’s:
- A1E1 Independent: 1.3 down to 1.0. Terrible armour for a heavy tank, worse than many nations light tanks even at 1.0. Terrible mobility. Massive target. 3-Pdr gun isn’t a redeeming factor either, it’s not the worst gun in the game, but due to all the other factors combined it’s made much worse.
- SARC IVa: 1.3 down to 1.0. It’s fast, and that’s kinda it. If you compare it to the Daimler it shares a BR with, it loses in almost every respect. Worse armour, no shoulder stabiliser, gun is incredibly bouncy and kicks like a mule after firing, worse gun elevation and depression angles, and it’s open-topped.
- Churchill Mk. I: 3.3 down to 3.0. The 2-Pdr is horrendous at this point, mainly due to the lack of mobility to flank. Even taking it in downtiers currently it struggles to penetrate Pz. IV F2’s with add-on track armour, Pz. III M’s, M4A1’s, T-34’s, etc.
- AEC AA: 3.7 down to 3.3. I don’t understand Gaijin’s insistence to keep increasing the BR’s of enclosed SPAA’s. The 20mm’s aren’t even that good.
- Crusader AA Mk II: 4.0 down to 3.7. I don’t understand why this vehicle even went up. Just compare it to the Wirbelwind, far worse rate-of-fire, less penetration, and half the guns. The only advantage the Crusader AA Mk. II has is an enclosed turret and more mobility. The 2 were very asymmetrically balanced.
- Churchill Mk. III: 4.0 down to 3.7. Less mobility than the Churchill Mk. I, same hull armour, and worse turret armour (only 3.5 inches compared to 4 inches). The gun is better, but that’s it. It’s also the same gun that’s on the AEC Mk. II at 3.0, though even this is wrong (see my bug report) it should be the weaker 6-Pdr Mk III further justifying a drop to 3.7.
- Churchill NA75: 4.3 down to 4.0. It’s more of a side-grade over the Churchill Mk. III, not a direct upgrade. You lose the good rate-of-fire, lose the shoulder stabiliser, and lose a decent amount of penetration for a better damaging shell. That’s the only difference, the shell is good but if the Churchill Mk. III goes down then the NA75 should as well.
- Comet: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s really a shadow of its former self. The A30 Challenger is a better vehicle in almost everyway. Just compare it to the VK 3002 (M).
- AC IV: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s just a slightly better Firefly. Again, just compare it to the VK 3002 (M).
- Skink: 5.3 down to 4.7. Just like the Crusader AA Mk. II really don’t understand why it keeps going up. Again, just compare it to the Wirbelwind, you still have less firepower and penetration but now have the double the guns of the Crusader AA Mk. II, and the same amount of guns as the Whirbelwind. Is that really worth a BR increase of 1.3 currently (4.0 to 5.3)?
- Tortoise: 6.7 down to 6.3. Just compare it to the T28, very similar vehicles except the Tortoise is covered in weakspots, lacks APHE, and just as slow.
I disagree with your Conqueror change, the vehicle doesn’t even have a stab and it’s been reported to Gaijin. Just remove the stab.
Well i dont have an answer for that sadly as im not responcible for what gets implemented, But as long as its a already made (and up to date) suggestion it should be fine, and the hope for it to be added should be the same^^
That’s why I said 6.7 - 7.0
Right, but you can suggest things right?
These are the ones I could see being good, if the conquerer’s gun stab is removed, then it would be a good 7.7
These:
- AC IV: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s just a slightly better Firefly. Again, just compare it to the VK 3002 (M).
- Comet: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s really a shadow of its former self. The A30 Challenger is a better vehicle in almost everyway. Just compare it to the VK 3002 (M).
Are fine as is, and a good match with the TOG II. However many vehicles suffer from the oppressive VK30.02 that should’ve gone up a long long time ago.
In regards to the tortoise though, all those 6.7 TDs suffer to HEAT FS, The Heavy tanks, and other TDs.
The best of the 6.7 tds are the Ho ri, and the Jagdtiger. So I don’t really see a reason to give a buff for the tortoise to see 5.3 tanks. Especially given its high crew count, spacious compartment, good apds, and a decent reload.
Lastly, the skinks were all recently buffed. I still they should be 5.0 though.
Thank you for your input, I will add these in a bit.
You didn’t get the joke :(
It’s because they’re premiums.
