Proposed ground RB battle rating changes

I’m a big KT 10.5 fan, and have played my share of games in it:

But to say it needs to go up to 7.3, while the IS-3 heads down to 7.0 is having a laugh. Yeah, the mobility is improved, yes the gun is great. But you’re still a KT, you still have that 1-shot delete button that is your turret cheeks. IS-3 may need much longer to reload, but he won’t mind because his hit on you is going to lead to your demise if you don’t take out the IS3 first. As you can see from my winrate in it, the Germans are not having the greatest time when coming up against the USA/Soviets in the 7.0/7.3 area, as it is.

I’ll tell you one thing - you send KT 10.5 to 7.3 and you’ve essentially killed it off, because at that point, you’re better off just running the Maus with the 7.7 line-up.

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let me clear, if you insist that you think the T-90A = the very first M1 I will from here on assume you are either trolling or have no idea what you’re talking about to the point I will disregard you as a default. That is how insane your current opinion is. Abort and reevaluate is my suggestion.

At the very least, comprehend that decompression is the way out of these balance issues rather than making the T-90A massively undertiered.

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Fox at 8.0 is wild…Thats DF015.Marder territory. Not stabilised, no thermals no commander overide and it’s wheeled with an incredibly loud engine. If you die to the Fox it’s on you.

Conqueror has an 18 second reload with one of the worst performing rounds 120mm APDS sounds great but it’s 1st generation and it shatters or over penetrates a lot of the time.

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So if its one shot to one shot capability, whom ever hits first, then that would be fair no? Tiger still has the quicker load. And better round, better mobility.

The only solution if you don’t agree, is:
Decompress everything 6.7 > 12.0, everything gets a 0.3 br increase. But the IS-3 is not any better than the KT105, nor is the IS6 much if any better, other than reload.

I agree decompression is, but it’ll kill match making times. All in the sake of fairness.

But how / what do you decompress? That’s the question

And the fox should easily kill both of these two you mention so idk why you bring it up

and the df105 and marders are?

and the df105 and marders have this?

only real downside but fox has no survivability anyway, that’s not why its very strong.

In the same way that dying to anything is on you? Sure. The Fox is an INCREDIBLY strong light tank for 7.7 though.

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Not at all - KT 10.5 has a much higher chance of bouncing off an IS-3/IS-6 than the other way around. Not to mention, IS-3/IS-6 are much survivable to the numerous SPGs lobbing HE shells around that BR. I really don’t think there is a need to move any of these three vehicles, though.

Fake gaijin propaganda point they use so they don’t have to actually decompress, zero basis in reality.

As if that is not what should be strived for the most in a pvp game?

I have made literal entire spreadsheets dedicated to this as just an inspired user. The devs are capable of doing this overnight they just don’t want to.

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Whatever they did recently with the BTR-80a makes 80% of hits on slightly angled armor shatter now.

I’ve never had it be so bad. Playing Uk tank don’t have that much she’ll shatter for me honestly, maybe here and there.

I’d take an XM800T over it, every single time. But you are right. Whatever happens - Fox should be below XM800T in BR.

joke tier take, is-3 is far better in grb, kt105 isnt even better than the kt88

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They both have their benefits, both should be 8.0 though.

One is more anti tank, the other, anti light tank

Send a photo of its shell.

DF105 is a monster 5 second reload. The 8.0 Marder is stabilised and has thermals and an ATGM.

It’s not incredibly strong it’s good at hiding, the rounds shatter a lot more now on tanks it faces and even lighter vehicles yes it can kill but side shots. It’s strength is being small and the average war thunder players memory span.

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Well, the DF105 is undertiered decently.

The marder is not stabilized. I spaded both of them.

Also, how is it fair for the enemy team, when I’m across the whole map in 15 secs, and can spawn camp? It’s not.

Engine noise doesn’t mean anything when your stationary, and the fox’s cannon is closer in stability to the xm800, than anything like the BTR or marder.

I thought it was my mistake

Oh my god. How about I send you a photo of the 88 penning everything it needs to anyway easily while having half the reload? Literally every good player understands why the kt88 is better.

No, it isn’t.

I did forget the 1a3 had this, it’s still not a difference that really matters in this case.

doesn’t help it often

Point is, Fox is not worse than these in a 7.7-8.0 context

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What is so hard about sending me a photo of the shell?

What is so hard about understanding that I disagree with you that the 105’s pen or filler advantage matters? What else are you going to say about it?