Proposed ground RB battle rating changes

T54E2 7.7 → 7.3

This tank is just awful, it has no redeemable qualities. It’s a significantly worse M48 (which is already an incredibly average tank) at the same BR.

The ammo options are pretty awful. The AP has barely any pen for the caliber, the APDS does almost no damage, and the HEATFS is HEATFS. It’s pretty much impossible to one tap things, and the damage you do is pretty negligible.

You also have a 10 second reload aced, more than 3 seconds longer than the M48 for an objectively worse gun (M48 has APHE and HEATFS, at least, and the 90mm HEATFS only loses 60mm of pen compared to 105mm HEATFS.).

Your armor might seem okay and that’s true for the hull. But go to the armor analysis and you’ll realize that your turret cheeks can be penned by almost anything. The neck of the turret is a mere ~160mm (pennable by the 17-pounder and KwK42) and the “pike” on the cheek is literally about 110mm thick. Not to mention, you have the famous American cupola which loves to get you killed.

As for mobility, it’s… okay. Slightly slower than the M48 but still okay. It won’t win any races but it’s also not obnoxiously slow.

There are literally no positives to using it or any quirks you can take advantage of. It’s just dogsh*t. Mediocre or bad at everything.

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Can you make a short a sweet version so I can add it?

I know I’m not the one in the conversation but would this work for you?

T54E2 7.7-7.3, severely underwhelming rounds, weak turret armor, worse gun compared to other vehicles at the tier, long reload, overall mediocre

why is that the same br as the t54e1 on the first place

Gaijoobles doing Gaijooble things ig, tbf I’m not the original person in this conversation

“they both have the same name but different number, must be the same”

Maybe it could get a slight reload buff instead of a downtier, but I’ll have to test it tomorrow.

@MrBombastic8 do you just spew out mis-information Bomb?

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They aren’t the same br…

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It had 105mm heat

And a damn post 400 pen apds which is absolutely phenomenal.

The t54E2 i take in an 8.3 lineup as it can roll up there.

The t54E2 is an actually well balanced tank at 7.7 dunno what this dude means.

“Insufficient ammo” what heat FS and a 105mm APDS

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Beats me. That’s why I said perhaps a slight reload buff would be better. Same thing with the Aubl-74 HVG. Since it has good rounds, but terrible damage in the Aubl, thus a reload buff would help it

Go back to the response line before replying. I was not the one advocating for it, simply shortening it for UniqueScorpions to add it.

I do not own the T54E2, I don’t play 7.7 either. Read further into the context before immediately responding rudely and insulting someone’s mental state

I read it, you literally responded to no one commenting on and summerising a tank completely incorrectly.

One that you have both just added that you have not used nor owned.

Your comment comes 1 month after the last, so even with the on going 1200 commented thread I assumed that it was a fresh comment.

You see I read about 600 of said comments and then went to the bottom.

You literally said this.

For a tank at 7.7 with a post 400 pen APDS with about 140 angled pen. Which isnt seen until about 8.7 ish on tanks.

Why summerise a tank, twice I may add, if you haven’t used it . why not let @jspene summerise it.

BTW this is incorrect, I use both the T54E1 and E2 and the APDS slams expecially for 7.7

The gun is a 105mm VS a 90MM cannon at 7.7, the 105 is substantially more damaging when it penetrates.

The turrets been okay for me, this though, with the PZH2000 and stuff rolling around has ruined one too many games for me with it.
The tank is fine for 7.7, its yet another victim of compression, no 6.3 in the game has the right to see this thing.

nah its got a good APDS , actively a good APDS on the t54E1 as well, the only ammo I used on the E1, good velocity, decent post pen, about the same as any other APDS and providing you aren’t just throiwng it mindlessly will one tap almost every tank even up to 8.7.

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Also note, it has been OVER A MONTH since Jspene posted that, and has since not posted anything under the topic

As does yours

As I said

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As in, follow the “Replying to”
Frankly, stop involving me in this conversation. It’s genuinely annoying

Yes as the topic popped up for me as two others.commented a month later.

As i stated, i read about half then skipped to the bottom to see you, freshly stating what you stated.

As i stated you responded to no one, your comment was a flat out comment.

Read what ive said.

Then stop replying. Simple as

Brother, are you really this blind?

Shoulda specified, the conversation about the T54E2. I understand if someone’s skimming and they saw mine first and replied to it, but even then after I’ve explicitly stated that I was not the one originally talking about it gets annoying when the same person keeps trying to argue with you over it. It’s like if someone made a TL:DR on an essay and your first response was to debate them over the points in said essay rather than the person who wrote said essay.

Unless my side is tweaking out, your reply was the first in a month. Infact, the “Two Others” would be yourself

Except I wasn’t the last to post before you over the 1 month period, it was UniqueScorpions, before them Mr. Bombastic, AND THEN ME except I said:

Here, I circled it for you:
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Once more, while this argument isn’t about the actual nature of your response, why did you reply to the person who was simply shortening someone elses reply so it could be added rather than the person who actually posted the original? It’s not like you skimmed through and only saw that comment of mine and not the ones later on. You could argue you used the slider, but even then you would’ve been able to see that it was from March and a reply, plus there would’ve been comments below it.

Must be a forum bug as well then cause it was showing the same.comment twice for me.

Once in the actual conversation and one outwith it later down the line.

Hence why i said you repeated yourself. Ill check again when on PC

All of this may possibly be caused by a bug in the forum showing your comment twice one without a response link.
Or i wouldn’t of said what i did.

I started to assume as much, sorry if my response came off as rude and sorry for the misunderstanding here

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Genuinely looking on pc and it seems to have been a forums issue -.- as always.

Well ill leave the commenrs there regardless.
Apologies chief.

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