If you have to make a few exceptions, it’s not WW2…
Its WW2 up about 5BR .Only the late addition of Sweden and its prototypes bucks the trend and and the recent deluge of SA stuff in the UK line up that nobody from Britain seems to like or want.
Also at 6-7 BR where WW2 heavies meet fast cold war tanks with 3- 400mm of pen the game is extreme contentious,so many complaints about old armour being redundant there.
M109 ruined the game at 6BR for me and many others feel the same.You would only notice of you actually play that BR.
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Having ww2 vehicles facing 80s tanks is a crazy take
Remove it from the game ,it has no place where it is
What makes these “80s tanks” (actually slightly upgraded 60s tanks) better? Go ahead, do tell.
Stabilization? They’re actually less stable.
Depression? They’ve got less of that.
Faster reload? They’re slower than most.
Better technology? They’ve not got a laser rangefinder, or even a normal one.
They’re literally just slightly faster than mediums of the tier, with none of the armor at all.
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Many Cold War tanks have been facing WW2 vehicles for years, like M42, M56 or PT-76 off the top of my head, but nobody complains. Suddenly M109 arrives and is the end of the world because it can easily OHK a German 6.7 heavy.
Are you saying PT-76, M42, Pvkv IV etc should be 7.7 or higher because they are Cold War tanks?
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Tell me again, this time without the unneeded insults.
What makes these “80s tanks” so much better?
I would say its the ability to totally negate WW2 armour as they would in reality.Time moves on.
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Would a WW2 155mm+ SPH not do the exact same thing?
Like, I dunno. The much better armored Brummbar or Sturmtiger?
No they are too rare and hard to aim.Premiums and prizes.Modern artillery is spam and can hit from distance.
It is possible that the Artillery spam has died a bit but there is much dissatisfaction where WW2 overlaps with Post War.
I don’t see how its a situation that can be reversed though.The modern artillery is here to stay and the WW2 game dead. If that causes some players to walk away then so be it.
Why not put in WW2 artillery? The m109 was just lazy
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One was literally given out for free, the other is still available as premium.
The M109A1 (6.3) has an aced reload speed of 13.3 seconds. The Brummbar, 17.2 seconds (better armor). Sturmtiger? 40 seconds (with far more armor, a far bigger round that can get multikills on even relatively well-armored vehicles, and a rangefinder that makes it far easier to aim).
WW2 has always overlapped with postwar.
It would be at a much lower battle rating due to being seen as direct fire, not to mention less practicality, just like the early cold-war howitzers seen ingame. Do you really want to see things like the M12, M40, M43 at even lower BRs?
Lol that is what he said 🤣
I fail to see how this is a problem. One is available at any time to buy with GE, for a reasonable price (especially during sales) and the other was free during an event many participated in.
If you don’t want to use them for Germany, you can always use the M109s Germany bought from the US :>
so you want the m56 to fight a Leopard 1 or a T55?
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CRAZY HOW STUFF THAT BEEN CLEARED FOR PUBLIC release isnt proof, but gaijin making stuff up is.
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If you have read what I’m saying, no, I do not. The m56 is in a perfect spot at the moment.
6.0-6.3 depends on version, can one shot a panther from the side from any angle so is comically easy, almost every other tank at the BR is a free kill too. its insane
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As somebody who mains Britain well before South Africa you have no idea what you are talking about. Most britian mains I know felt that south africa was a welcome addition even if they want brit light tanks more.
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That’s your opinion ,seems like you rarely play any way with that many games under your belt.There is a a lot of hate for those things in the UK tree when they could be UK vehicles and not SA. Do you even read this forum?
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