sorry what you’ve just ignored everything I’ve said lol
Now do me a favour, properly address the points made, without further trying to take some moral high ground on a Wt forum
Because your argument in that regard was terrible
When it encourages gaijin to keep releasing broken and incomplete vehicles in the non-cashcow tech trees? Absolutely.
And who are you to critique people’s opinions on copy-paste vehicles when nations IRL import and export others’ vehicles all the time?
its literally not, sure it may function the same in game but it has a unique 3d model, it shouldnt be compared to actual copypaste which is far more egregious
did you just say the prime access is not pay to win ??? I’ve about 1400 hours of WF mate the primes are most certainly pay to win lol.
IT’s also extremely exploitative due to the manner in which things take literally days and up to a week to build.
or you can skip it conviently with a Paid for currency.
Extra economic bonuses justify it being 60 euros yeah? no they do not.
What are you on about?
My two off the cuff examples, the moment they released where on the field, You had literal swarms of BMPTs on the field demolishing teams, and still do, but they are obviously GE’d for as they were there not minutes after release.
In your perogative.
No one said it’s gameplay enhancing to give an M60A1 RISE it’s historical munitions especially seeing as the skin they’ve used is from that god damn war/ era said munitions were used in and bumping up it’s BR to compensate, there you go, no longer gameplay enhancing.
It’s only gameplay enhancing if you half ass it and say for example game this RISE the M900A1 and left it at 8.7.
Good for you, most people don’t lol.
Most folks are sick and tired of the things which cost them upwards of 60 euros are copied and pasted and are not unique.
It’s absolutely not terrible, why? just because you say so lol.
Sorry what? the non. cashcow tech trees being what?
Cause if you looksome of the most sold premiums are from minor nations lol.
I in fact was not critique others opinions and was critiquing the company, but someone with a brain as smooth as your own can’t see that lol.
My point was why is this thing so expensive for being purely copy paste.
Sorry but a marginally unique skin does not actually make it unique, it makes it the same functionally E.G copy and paste as the Tech tree variant. Thus copy paste. Or are you going to tell me the Leopard 2A4 Panzer BTL is not copy and paste?
It literally is copy paste though lol, you slap a new skin on it doesn’t mean the vehicle is any different. You know who said that kind of stuff, Alvis, related to the M46 event patton for France, which is quite literally a copy paste model as well.
EDIT: Something like this, should be about 10 euros, if that.
Look at Wh40K space marine 2, you can buy a unique pack which comes with new models / armours. for 8 euros.
Or a massive pack which ocntains X amount of chapters for 5.99.
Where’s the justification in this being 60 bangers.
the 2A4 prems are all copy paste, they ahve the exact same damage models, munitions, etc. the only difference is Gaijin slaps a camo net on it and charges 70 euros lol.
I ain’t giving them credit for that.
I can’t tell if this is sarcasm.
damage model is the same, munitions same, mobility same, armour layout same, armour profile same just because they slapped some junk to it, like the puma prem, does not make it unique. This is by all means bar the skin a literal copy paste of the Tech tree variant.
And you can bet your ass that it’s already being touted as copy and paste.
also do you understand what literal means no?
being the most basic meaning of a word or phrase, rather than an extended or poetic meaning. So yeah it’s literally copy and paste mate by the definition of C&P and by teh definition of the word literal.
But pop off
no literally copy and paste is like all the tech tree leopard 2a4s or the strelas/osas, please at least give gaijin the tiniest amount of credit for not putting no effort into premiums like this, like sure its not really unique, but dont say “its literally copypaste” because thats like the one thing it isnt
The paid for currency I’ve traded for thousands of without slamming my credit card on the table? That paid currency?
Russian tech-tree. Do the math.
So do it to both, then, or have an M60A1 RISE early/late in the tech-tree like certain aircraft. Don’t leave the TT one hanging because you want a unique vehicle locked behind paywall. (Coughs in France’s only indigenous rank IV aircraft)
You’d be surprised how many people don’t want the game to devolve further into a P2W mess, and are happy to see more reskin prems.
Which is why I see absolute hordes of the Big 3’s top-tier anime tank prems compared to everything else, right?
Because it’s a Rank VI premium vehicle capable of researching the entire rest of the tech tree before it faster.
That’s good for you mate, but to act like thousands of people don’t just buy them for quick easy access rather than farm them or trade for them is extremely disingenuous of you lol .
Sorry but the most sold premiums weren’t always the russian tree. For a start the M1A1s have bene the most sold premiums for years now.
Sorry mate, but you realise there are three stages of rise, as an example they could do early being stage 1 TT and the latest being stage 3 as the one with ERA etc as the most modern foldered and give us a unique on in the middle.
But you wanting it so cut and dried as no unique prems is just as immature an attitude as folks expecting every prem to be unique, or better than TT counter parts.
I don’t want it hidden behind a paywall, now read this part carefully for the love of god as I’m sick of saying it
I just do not think a copy pasted M60 should costs sixty euros as I said to @AblativeKitten It’s nonsense to spend that amount for literally nothing.
Tell me, outwith the fact of a select few vehicle.
What exactly is P2W about a premium being unique, no one said unique meant OP did they.
you’re one of the very few i’ve ever seen with this take lol.
lol what a copout of a response mate, 60 bucks should be the price of the abrams or such. Not a copy and pasted M60
i dont think the thousands of people who buy those reskin vehicles are few in number, otherwise gaijin probably wouldnt do it
i mean the abrams would be just as copypasted as this m60, plus theyre like 70 bucks…
You do realise the amount of Vehciles they have done this with then removed and put into the GE section is massive right?
Well aware and I’ve been against that too, but the fact they’re trying to justify 60 bangers for an M60 Rise is wild mate.
it’s not even that good an 8.7 lol.
yes, in fact its only outnumbered by the success stories of them doing exactly this
m1 kvt, clickbait, oes, the anime tanks, type 90 fuji, all the leopard 2s, etc
plus its not like unique vehicles dont also get the same treatment, like the f20 and many others before it, can you say the f-20 didnt sell well?
Consider your experience isn’t the authoritative one and not everyone pulls out their wallet the second they see something they want. If most just buy prime access, why are there so many playing the game and cracking new relics every time they release? And why are the only paid exclusives cosmetics, why aren’t primes locked behind an explicit paywall like they would be in war thunder? Could it be that gameplay locked behind a paywall is, in fact, unhealthy and a trashy easy method to squeeze money out of people?
Let’s just ignore the fact you can’t remotely grind GJC and you’re losing vehicles to get it, whereas in warframe you can grab new stuff and sell extras for plat. The only evergreen way of doing that in WT is gambling millions of SL away with lootboxes sporting exorbitantly low droprates…
And when were the M1A1s as broken as BMPT/LMUR?
How about no unique prems, and they don’t lock production US vehicles behind paywall? I bet you love France’s current EBR situation, huh?
So wait for a sale. Exhibit the bare minimum of patience and pick it up for 30 when you know it’ll be cheaper, along with all the other prems.
It means balancing them becomes harder, as any bloke can pick them up as opposed to TT vehicles at that tier where you generally have to be at least decent to grind them out.
And you’re one of the very few I’ve seen clamoring for more unique indigenous vehicles to be paywalled.
What I said above. Wait for a sale, asking for gaijin to make a special snowflake version is masochistic…
And not waiting for a sale also would imply you do, in fact, have poor impulse control :P
Nor do I you absolute presumptious clown I’ve like I said over 1400 hours of the game across my PS4, Switch and PC, well probably higher, I know hwo the game works, you buy and sell.
You are acting as if the prime stuff no one buys it off of the store page.
Which is by all manners of the word, dishonest as hell I had a clan in which about 200 people would buy a prime on it’s release, Why you may ask?
because grown ass adults which have to work 40- 60 hour weeks do not have time to sit and play a game for hundreds of hours to unlock the prime parts they need.
Or in the case of WT people work and have lives, they do not have the time to sit and grind all of the crap out they need, so they buy a premium which has some unique nuance to it facilitating a slightly easier grind.
Which by the way, means you do not repeat, do not have to buy premiums with real cash
Could say the exact same for WF mate, you have to wait days and days for things to build use platinum to expand inventory, least you used to. As well as you need platinum for most things in game cosmetically.
You can buy and sell on the MB to easily make GJN mate, just need patience like you keep harping on about
Also you only lose vehicles if you don’t do it inteligently.
Do you even know what this word means?
A special snowflake version? what are you trying to convay with this you absolute clod.
Ah here we are back full circle to the original meaning behind that first comment was in fact to make a dig at me for disagreeing with you.
Again I use GJN cause I’ve a brain in my head and have sold plenty of event vehicles.
You realise there are a plethora of vehicles which haven’t seen sales as they’re removed before they get the chance to go on sale right?
You make quite a few quips about patience for a man who’s clearly too much time on his hands.
I’ve got the premiums I want by saving up GJN, something that you’ve completley ignored.
You don’t lol at all, I got through the first 1000 hours of my time n the game with a 0.5Kd and managed to get most trees to rank 4.
In under 3 years I’ve managed to get nearly every tree to top tier for both air and ground.
Any ways, You’ve spent more time trying to work insults into your comments than reasonable points of debate, so I’ll not be responding to yourself.
As my whole original point to @AblativeKitten was why in the god damn is this thing 60 euros, even on sale, 30 euros for a reskin is too much.
That’s hitting counter strike levels of stupid money for skins for stuff.
The game that doesn’t sell gameplay advantages yet still makes way more? War Thunder could only to aspire to such a level of fair monetization.
atp just allow players to buy TT vehicles with GE even if they don’t have all the previous vehicle, this way you can sell premiums and no one will bother, it’s literally what is happening RN with copy paste
Yes, i cant wait for the already terrible teammates to buy this premium and say it’s garbage.
Ps, this stuff ruins BRs and playability thanks to the bed ridden apes that buy them,
(clickbait players) <————
As with unique premiums too (T58, TURM, XM1, 2S38, 2A4M, etc), lest you conveniently forget.
Top-tier premiums in general are a mistake, yes, but I don’t feel like that’s the angle you’re trying to come at me from.
Thanks gaijin another prem!!! AWESOME
Should this tank get M900A1?
Yes , yes it should. As well as the TT variant but hey ho
Only if the TT variant gets it, and both are moved up as a result. That, or a new TT variant with it is created… Gaijin seriously needs to expand more on the US’s indigenous vehicles, it’s really sad that the T95E1 medium tank is the only variant of the T95 project we have and it’s one of the worst possible. That’s without even mentioning stuff like the M551A1 TTS!