Should be 8.0.


Now, just please copy-paste the M107 HE shell from T30 Gaijinini pleaseee XD
Yeah like this thing needs more buffs. 6 nukes in 3 days, and not to mention almost a 3.8 kd.
It NEEDS a mega nerf.
I honestly will refuse to play anything 7.3 - 8.7 until its reload get nerfed, and it’s br gets nerfed.
Hell, even in full uptiers, the enemies never stood a chance against me unless they 5v1’d me
Such a ridiculous tank. I’ve been researching the France tree and at 7.7 for a while now. I had plans to move into 9.3, and purchased all the TT vehicles for it. Then this abomination came out, so I’m staying in 7.7 and unlocking 9.7 to see the back of it. Dumb tank, overtuned, stupid reload speed and thick ass armour
Oooh how this aged poorly.
Oooh same with this
T58 > obj279 LIKE >>>>
After facing this thing for two weeks in UK 7.7
I am asuming that the turret is modeled incorrectly and needs to be fixed. Because not for one second I believe the turret should be impervious to high performance sabots.
Not seeing the hull is currently a death sentence.
If this tank wants to stand outside the usual “push him after he reloads” interaction with other tanks, thats completly fine, but it needs to have some trade off.
APDS is still only 25% likely to pierce the hull, the turret is volumetric, and the cheeks are as thick as 406mm.
I’ve found a few weak spots on it. Directly under the turret, but if its turret is depressed then gg you die. Hitting the cupola with HE will take out a few crew and if you’re lucky then it’s breach also. LFP will also pen…
But if its hull is hidden, and you don’t atleast take out the turret or breach on the first shot. You dead dead…
I wouldn’t say op 1. It’s extremely abused over used term 2. At a uptier it fights a lot things with heat,apfds, and apds even at 8.3 theirs plenty of vehicles that can take out the t58 or is equal like ush 805, strv,stb2 ,type 60,114, tow missiles, Vidar, PzH 2000HU, ZTZ59D1, obj 279 ,is7,Conqueror, and t10m and more. most of tanks or ifvs and spg have a stabilizer or laser range find that automatically changes the range or even has Thermal imager
To be honest their is plenty of fast firing tanks at its br or around its br plus the canon is long and has a big muzzle brake/bore evacuator and witch acts like a bullet sponge so like theirs plenty of ways to take out a t58 or demobilize it although I do see it moving to 8.7 and leave it as is at most and upgrading its armor wouldn’t do much as is7,is4,Maus, and t10m already proves this. giving it shock absorber system would send multiple people to forums complaining about it gets something it doesn’t get in real life
Conqueror
Not when hulldown and with gun slightly depressed
Same can be said if it was the other around
Im not currently at PC but im nearly sure the T58 HEAT shell has little troubles going through conqueror turret