really doubt it, the m103 reverses a little worse than an m48 in my experience
The T30 we have ingame was pretty accurate before the unreal buff at 30secs.
T30E1 could load in 18 seconds. She is not autoloaded but she was equipped with autoloading assisted system which automated part of the loading process like most modern howitzers do, crew still had to do a lot in the process but it was easier and faster.
reloads are complete fiction in game. Theres plenty of footage of centurions being fired at near triple the ROF we have in WT. its a fools errand trying to rationalise it anymore
Community vote: TT :D
Gaijin: Premium D:
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Maybe with a lap load. But then you get into loaders being nerfed at the same time for various reasons I’ve explained plenty of times
Dunno about 3 times as fast - but 13 rpm -
(ETA: these 2 links do take you to the correct videos!!)
On the move even… although only 2 shots…
Long ago in the old forum Gaijin stated that reload times were a balancing feature and real life was irrelevant to it - that has been repeated in this forum as recently as May 2024:
I think you mean reloads are made slower than real life peaks.
Slowness is not fiction, but I do get your feelings on the matter.
heres a pathe newsreel from 1952 showing a centurion firing at just under triple the WT ROF, on the move
im aware its “balancing” however the scales seem to be rusted out of action
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The 2nd video I show is taken from that one - but it is only a very limited example - in the full video it gets 4 shots in from 0.53 - 1.04, or 2.25 seconds, not including loading the 1st shot.
WT reload rates are 8.1 down to 6.3 seconds according to the wiki.
And from 1.14 it slows down a heck of a lot when it “takes evasive action” with a shot at 1.14 and the next one at 1.22.
So I don’t think that video is quite as good as it looks at first glance!
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idk if youve ever been in a tank or any tracked vehicle over rough terrain but that is more than expected. seeing as WT takes a static reload rate as your normal the video heavily indicates it ought to be faster
Yeah but WT also doesn’t slow anything down for terrain - the reload rate applies come hell or high water, apart from damage and/or missing crew members
so:
1/ yes to could be faster IRL; and
2/ the video has been around forever in the forum and Gaijin have seen it; and
3/ it ain’t going to change anything; and
4/ yes I have, but only with turret mounted MG’s; and
5/ several years is a long time to be complaining about something that you know is not going to change.
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That British loader inside that Centurion must be either seriously jacked or have the reflexes taught by The Flash.
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Yes when it first came out (old forum - 5-6 yrs ago??) I recall people making (entirely not serious) comments about the RAC running trials in 1952 to be the loader in a video… using Olympic athletes…
Given this is a propaganda reel, I have my suspicions
Or it’s a propaganda film. It was clearly hyping the stabilizer.
I decided to buy it - financed by getting a spare AUBL in the crates :)
I get it’s bad (mostly due to gaijins nonsense of not fixing the reload)
But poor Aubl HVG
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Of course reload IRL are way faster but there is a catch
First of all as it was Said it’s a balancing factor, take the t54E1 give it it’s 2.5 sec reload Time and Watch it being but at 9.0 only to get coocked because yeah I’m Lucky Luke but mobility Is crap, no stab, no LRF.
Same with centurion Mk3 for exemple, it would be impossible to balance.
Second factor: the human loader
I will put you in a tank as a loader and for 1 hour straight you will be loading shells in the breech and it will go like this:
-First 10 minutes you would be an absolute menace with 3 seconds reload as you claim
-After that you will get so tired that the rate for fire would decrease with a reload of now 10-15 sec
So unless you want this mechanic implemented in the game, we don’t need to claim bug reports on reloads because it is slower than the reload on a propaganda film.
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Also like Joseph said, if you take into account the fact that moving and crossing difficult terrain doesn’t impact your reload at all, the average gap to real life begins to narrow for most vehicles anyway
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